TinMan's "Over Faraday HV HHO production"

[pomodoro]

Guys, I swear you can hear crickets chirping if you listen hard enough.


Just to bump up this important thread, who actually agrees that 20Vx 0.4 A can make as much as 2V x 4A in exactly the same cell, with the only difference being that the second has electrolyte added to make it conductive? Don't be shy now. The watts are the same after all. Please explain your reasoning and please don't flame anyone.

[tinman]

Just to bump up this important thread, who actually agrees that 20Vx 0.4 A can make as much as 2V x 4A in exactly the same cell, with the only difference being that the second has electrolyte added to make it conductive? Don't be shy now. The watts are the same after all. Please explain your reasoning and please don't flame anyone.

pomodoro

Ask your self this-
If less gas is being produced using the same amount of power,but at a higher voltage,and lower current,and less heat is also produced using a higher voltage/lower current-->where is the power going ?,as it is not producing as much gas,or as much heat-it simply cannot just up and disappear.

While we are at it-a question--
I had always thought that Faradays limit converted to an MMW of 9.28,but it wouls seem that after some calculations from a well known physics professor of these forums,that the faraday MMW limit is actually lower at just 8.57 
Do you agree with this number ?.

Guys, I swear you can hear crickets chirping if you listen hard enough.

Some of us have to work during the week,and also have family commitments as well.
There is also the fact that when doing something like this,very accurate measuring equipment must be designed and built--so as !some! cannot say the measurements are wrong.


Brad

[ramset]

Pomo
Some peeps hear crickets....others hear Bizzy bee's

a lotta Buzzin going on ATM.

respectfully

Chet K

[pomodoro]

Bit busy for a full reply ATM but quick calcs reveal 8.5 ml per wattminute at 25 deg C using values of 22.4L/mole, 96485.33 for F and in an open system (const pressure of 101.3 kpa and heat from room heating water back to 25C immediately.) this is the absolute best at those conditions, never achieved by anyone apparently. It requires 1.23v. Next value is the thermoneutral of 7.05 ml which is sometimes used. Even this value is possibly impossible again at the above temp and pressure but this time 1.48v is required. There is actually a massive assumption here that the electrodes are perfectly non polarizable meaning that an incredibly small increase above the 1.23V is enough to make the required current for the 1W flow.
Increases in temp lower those voltages and increase the mmw value.
As far as Faradays law is concerned, Brad , you have killed it by a factor of 10 if the measurements of current and volumes  are correct. Faraday's law is extremely precise unlike the above mmw calcs and volts have nothing to do with it.Temperature has no effect (below the thermal decomposition temp ie plasma electrolysis). Perhaps the smart chap you mention can clarify this for you.
Cheers for now pomo.
Oh BTW the crickets were due to the lack of comments by readers, assuming people are reading but keeping quiet.

[MagnaProp]

...As far as Faradays law is concerned, Brad , you have killed it by a factor of 10 if the measurements of current and volumes  are correct...

Sounds great to me. Congrats to the Tinman for your work! I don't have a clue how to handle this gas safely so it'll be a while before I try to replicate it. Thanks in the mean time for the how to videos.