Utron research

[conradelektro]

I produced two videos with a simple electrostatic motor driven with 15 KV positive pulses from a High Voltage power supply:

Pickup Coil Near Rotor of Electrostatic Motor (Pulses from HV Power Supply)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XLmmCkKnIY

Magnetic Field Near Rotor of Electrostatic Motor (Fail)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idz9z4dgCdQ


For explanations please read the video description.

Greetings, Conrad

[Cherryman]

@Conrad  Nice , clean tests! 


T1: Compass, i got the same, no results measurable on my compas. 


T2:  So it's like an antenna?  Did you have changes along with the speed of the rotor ? 


I did some retest after viewing yours, and some more tests.  I got some influence in the air as well.
But I also measured influence of a charged and uncharged rotor near the coil.
I came up to 6 volts with the coil grounded on one side and open on the other ( See vid )


Somehow the voltage is influenced by the speed of the rotor AND if the rotor is charged or not.


I upload another vid. 
https://youtu.be/3l5xAefUNa0


My multimeter died just now,  first victim of the Utron.  : (

[conradelektro]

T2:  So it's like an antenna?  Did you have changes along with the speed of the rotor ? 

https://youtu.be/3l5xAefUNa0

My multimeter died just now,  first victim of the Utron.  : (

Answer to T2: No, I had no changes with the speed of the rotor, my coil always picked up the 24 kHz pulses. And after switching off the power supply the coil did not pick up any signal although the rotor kept on spinning rapidly for up to 20 seconds (due to inertia).

Answer to your Video https://youtu.be/3l5xAefUNa0 : It looks to me that you are also picking up the pulses from your HV power supply with your coil. You can not see that because your multimeter does not show frequency only Voltage which is not reliale because your multimeter is not intended for high frequences and also not for pulses (only for low frequency sine waves with no more than a few hundred Hertz). So, with your multimeter you are like a blind man thinking that the trunk of an elephant is a snake. If you connect one probe of the multimeter to your coil and the other probe is used like an antenna, you get different Voltages depending on how much the air is carrying charge or whether you touch the HV. A multimeter is not the right tool to gain some insight into your contraption.

Answer because of your broken multimeter: no wonder your multimeter is dead, you connected it to High Voltage pulses (you touched the pole and the contact foils of your electrostatic motor with one probe). Utron is a harsh teacher not forgiving mistakes.

Hint: If you ever plan to use an oscilloscope be very careful with the High Voltage. Under no circumstances you should touch the HV with the probe or the ground of the oscilloscope.

Greetings, Conrad

[Cherryman]

Answer to T2: No, I had no changes with the speed of the rotor, my coil always picked up the 24 kHz pulses. And after switching off the power supply the coil did not pick up any signal although the rotor kept on spinning rapidly for up to 20 seconds (due to inertia).

Answer to your Video https://youtu.be/3l5xAefUNa0 : It looks to me that you are also picking up the pulses from your HV power supply with your coil. You can not see that because your multimeter does not show frequency only Voltage which is not reliale because your multimeter is not intended for high frequences and also not for pulses (only for low frequency sine waves with no more than a few hundred Hertz). So, with your multimeter you are like a blind man thinking that the trunk of an elephant is a snake. If you connect one probe of the multimeter to your coil and the other probe is used like an antenna, you get different Voltages depending on how much the air is carrying charge or whether you touch the HV. A multimeter is not the right tool to gain some insight into your contraption.

Answer because of your broken multimeter: no wonder your multimeter is dead, you connected it to High Voltage pulses (you touched the pole and the contact foils of your electrostatic motor with one probe). Utron is a harsh teacher not forgiving mistakes.

Hint: If you ever plan to use an oscilloscope be very careful with the High Voltage. Under no circumstances you should touch the HV with the probe or the ground of the oscilloscope.

Greetings, Conrad

Tnx for your replay,


I did however only touch the ground, or after the rotor never a straight connection with the HV source. But maybe i made a mistake somewhere.  At least not in the video i did not touch the source directly. It looks like it , but i just held it close to see if there was some interference. But maybe i made a mistake afterwards.  ( It still works at the end of the vid ; )
Anyway.. it's still dead...  Lesson learned   ( could this be a fuse i can fix? ) 



Greetings C'man

[sm0ky2]

I've fried several of these playing around with my Ion generator
Usually there is not enough current to break a fuse.
Capacitors are often threatened, but more often than not
When one of my multimeters starts acting up or goes dead
I found that shorting the terminals to each other, while flipping
Through all of the modes on the dial
Can bring them back to life - or more accurately discharge the hv
Stored inside them that is screwing up the readings or the ability to
display readings at all.


Worth a try before you thrown it away.
Sometimes they just die.
Which is why I use cheap ones to play with hv