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Mervace Working Magnetic motor using induction feedback

Started by Jdo300, November 20, 2006, 01:26:19 AM

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allcanadian

Here's a crackpot guess
We have a large coil with a reed switch, two capacitors-one small, one large, a magnet on a rotor, and a twisted wire. How can it work?

What if the twisted wire had no induced voltage but could act in a attractive manner when current was flowing through it(electromagnet). The twisted wire is in series with the large cap to form a resonant circuit, but fed by what?
The large coil and reed switch form what we know as an adams motor, most people don't understand the adams motor is not a pure repulsion motor. The magnet approaches the coil inducing a high voltage beacause the coil is large having many layers, when the magnet aligns with the coil a reed switch opens the circuit so there is no more forward current to produce backdrag, the induced voltage in attraction feeds the small cap. The reed switch opens and closes very quickly, it's only function is to stop forward current flow, when the reed switch closes the power in the small cap flows back through the coil but in the opposite direction repelling the magnet and travels into the twisted wire/cap resonant circuit.
Merv am I getting warm?

Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

Omnibus

@Stefan,

These people somehow cannot undertand that the more open they are the better their interests will be protected. What did Finsrud, for instance, achieve with his lack of cooperation? Basically being ignored by almost everybody. Same thing with Torbay.

In this case I'm also puzzled by the tone of the whole presentation. At times it somehow calls not to be taken seriously, don't you think? Why is that?

hartiberlin

Quote from: Adzoe on November 23, 2006, 12:22:55 PM
Quote from: hartiberlin on November 23, 2006, 11:38:22 AM
Ahh, I see,
you mean the rotating magnet is attracted to the iron
twisted pair wire and so will accelerate as in a SMOT ramp
and then induce current inside the center coil ?

This could also be the case, right ! ;)
Good idea !

I find it impossible to imagine a ferromagnetic material having any benefit in the twisted wire "gimmick".  Any iron there would merely slow the rotor, as the gimmick is too far removed from the solenoid to create a magnetic field strong enough to attract the neo magnet downward.  Anyone out there with a gauss meter to test this?

If you watch closely the video,
it could be, that there is some iron in the wire, so the magnet rotor is accelerated,
cause at the lower end also the wire is bowed away, so the magnet
can move on..
As Merv said in the video it is a very sensitive setup and hard to tune,
but on theother hand, it would also attract the twisted pair wire and
probably induce rising back and forth shaking of the wire to generate mechanical
oscillation... Could these be strong enough to be seen in the video ?
I have to rewatch again...

Maybe the wire is only for a show and as Merv seems to like to
tease people, especially at the end of the second video,
I wonder, if he is not trying to fool us, so we should think
the working principle is different, when all it does the trick
is only a shorted timed center coil via the reed switch ???

Or is he using a hall device to generate voltage at the tip
of the twisted pair hidden there ?
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

hartiberlin

Quote from: allcanadian on November 23, 2006, 01:05:46 PM
The magnet approaches the coil inducing a high voltage beacause the coil is large having many layers, when the magnet aligns with the coil a reed switch opens the circuit so there is no more forward current to produce backdrag, the induced voltage in attraction feeds the small cap. The reed switch opens and closes very quickly, it's only function is to stop forward current flow, when the reed switch closes the power in the small cap flows back through the coil but in the opposite direction repelling the magnet and travels into the twisted wire/cap resonant circuit.
Merv am I getting warm?



Ahh, do you think the reed switch is closed all the time and shorts out the coil and
only opens when the magnet is top dead center above it ?

I thought the reed switch is open all the time andjust closes for a short
moment, when the magnet is over it...
Hmm, we really have to find out, how these old magnetron coils worked !
Can somebody find a circuit diagramm from an old microwave oven please ?
Many thanks.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

legendre

Quote from: Omnibus on November 23, 2006, 12:52:45 PM
@legendre,

Usually I'm drawn into these endless discussions.

Sure, except in those instances where you, in fact, start those discussions - as in this thread.

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The wishes of the participants are not always to be respected.

Yes, and since you, personally, are the unassailable qualifier of all things sensible and nonsensical, I'm sure this works out very well for you.

In any event, please continue to rationalize your unpleasant behaviour in any manner you see fit.