Light Source from MVP (Magnetic Voltaic Potential) by TLG-team

[TinselKoala]

Dear Mr. All.

I live in a rural situation with my electricity being supplied via overhead line. The system employed is known as PME, Protective Multiple Earthing. This means that my earth conductor is also part of the Neutral conductor. I know that it is highly unlikely that I should see any AC ground effect, in fact I don't.... I see DC voltage, with obvious polarity.

Sadly my yard is totally covered in crushed and compacted Limestone and the only areas of grass are much less than 30 metres for any full test to be carried out.

I can confirm that I see voltage in West East orientation and even oblique's of the cardinal points. I have tried various metals wondering if the voltage is of a " Galvanic " nature, seems not.

In all tests I used an extension lead/cord with the three wires strapped together to reduce the resistance.

kind regards, Mr. Grum.

Thank you for your report. So, to underline your results, your detection of the voltage in the E-W direction as well as the N-S direction _fails to support_ the claim of "Dr"blue that the effect is orientation dependent, at least in your case. And you would not have known this had you not tried the control experiment.

It is completely wrong to say "A causes B" and then show "B" as "proof" that the claim "A" is correct. Why? Because there could be any number of other causes for "B" and simply showing "B" does not rule them out.  The real scientist will try "not A" to see if "B" is still true... and if it is, then we have actually proved that "A" is not actually the sole or only cause of "B".

[ramset]

Nelson
  I do understand your perspective and  agree
the other references "bannings and No science" where in  response to dieter  as were the "personalized remarks" a direct
response to dieter and Zephir [the church stuff too].
apologies for my laziness in not specifying that [I hate typing]
I can only imagine how difficult typing here in another language would be[for me]
I will refrain from Laziness in future posts to you  [mixing generic responses to others]
also
I did make additional response to dieter when I saw he posted while I was typing .

@ Tinsel
Grums experiment as noted is not at the 30M benchmark set by the drblue ,I have no idea how to differentiate this energy from "No current magnetic Voltaic potential energy "?

it has not been explained yet ,

Grum's contribution is however a good start to some control experiments to vet this claim/

[nelsonrochaa]

Nelson
  I do understand your perspective and  agree
the other references "bannings and No science" where in  response to dieter  as were the "personalized remarks" a direct
response to dieter and Zephir [the church stuff too].
apologies for my laziness in not specifying that [I hate typing]
I can only imagine how difficult typing here in another language would be[for me]
I will refrain from Laziness in future posts to you  [mixing generic responses to others]
also
I did make additional response to dieter when I saw he posted while I was typing .

@ Tinsel
Grums experiment as noted is not at the 30M benchmark set by the drblue ,I have no idea how to differentiate this energy from "No current magnetic Voltaic potential energy "?

it has not been explained yet ,

Grum's contribution is however a good start to some control experiments to vet this claim/

Hi Ramset ,

Myself will try make some of this tests in the mean time when arrive at Portugal , and i will glad to relate what i register . I have a portable scope , and i could take some data shot's to publish after .

Cheers

Nelson Rocha

[Grumage]

Dear Mr. All.

A short video demonstration showing how SWER works even at LV levels.

https://youtu.be/JcPu4Ie47vA

WARNING  Don't try this at home unless you're electrically competent!!

This video was the last in which my fairly expensive DMM starred in, the voltage output was in fact 220 VAC not 197 !!

Kind regards, Mr. Grum.

[Zephir]

@ramset, grumage: before starting the utilization of MVP/SWER, you should make sure about its nature with oscilloscope: which voltage you're drawing from your ground pipes? Which frequency it has? If it has exactly 50/60 Hz, then you're just draining some stray voltage from nearby railway, HV grid or something similar, which isn't worth the attention - you'll just contribute to their corrosion instead.