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A3C & X-MAGNETS AND PMF.

Started by ageofmagnetizm, May 19, 2017, 08:07:51 PM

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ageofmagnetizm

Do you see Gyulasun, how scientific methods works:


By obtaining sets of numbers and forming two or more sets which can
be compared mathemathically. When I place your and my numbers in rows:


gylasun                     5 years       3500 posts        00000 reported experiments        1 subscriber
ageofmagnetizm     9 years           80 posts               34  reported experiments     19 subscribers


then it is so obviously easy two compare to sets and produces one or several obvious conclussions,
lets other members do the maths and conclussions, I only obtain values to form sets to compare.


https://m.youtube.com/user/gyulasun/videos
https://m.youtube.com/user/ageofmagnetizm/videos


Shall continue...

ageofmagnetizm

Now........Hmmmmm...... a-haa...... here the numbers for
the second hyperactive member continuously and shamelessly
Intruding and interrupting this discussion so creating chaos to disable
Possibility of civilized conversations between members...


Videoreports of the second intruder:


https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCoofWrl80jNYPJhkjjcTz7A/feed


gylasun                     5 years       3500 posts        00000 reported experiments        1 subscriber
citfta jr                       5 years         635 posts                 3 reported experiments        7 subscribers


Now both intruders are being integrated into statistical intruder by simple integrals:


Sample intruder       5 years        2075 posts             1.5 reporded experiments       4 subscribers


Hmmmm.....clearly that both intruders have similar statss causing similar motivation for attacking
users which stats are UNBELIVABLY differen, in such attacks they try to hypercompensate....
No... wait .... I should not to produce conclussions, instead acting as AIs, purelly collecting datas
so facilitating easy and swift and convenient participations of real users of this forum....


I had no slightest intention to create mess on this discussion but if intruders can not sleep without
Mees, then OK. Let mess be...


Shall continiue.....












citfta

All of which goes to prove the old saying "garbage in equals garbage out".  And also again proves you have no idea how to interpret data.

gyulasun

ageofmagnetizm,

No I am not speechless and did not stop teaching, find my words below.

Just briefly:  I am a retired video service and maintenance engineer with 37 years of experience in electronic circuits. I do not need to prove my credentials to you or anyone else: only what I write or comment that is what counts here.  I have received several "Thanks for your help" openly in members posts during the years here.

You can make many experiments, videos: if your measuring methods are wrong, your conclusions are wrong.

The big difference between you and me is: if my collegaues at work or friends explained a measuring mistake I had made I accepted and learned from it not to make it again. You do not accept if your mistake is exposed and continue driving your 1000% efficient generator agenda.

Just one example any readers here can understand: 

you wrote your insertion water heater has about 100 Ohm resistance and 500 W power. 
If you connect it across the 230 V AC mains it would draw 230 V/100 Ohm = 2.3 Amper, right?
(Let's neglect any resistance change due to the heat, it is not significant.) 
If the AC mains had 260 V, then the current draw would be 2.6 Amper.
When you connect this heater directly across your 260 V generator output, you do not show two things.

One is: how low the 260V output voltage drops to because of your 4 generator coils are in series connection and together they have 448 Ohm DC resistance as you measured.

The second is that the moment you connect the heater directly across your generator output the RPM of your motor will drop from the unloaded 1400 to a lower RPM. This means the 260V AC output voltage (which was the unloaded output voltage) will also drop  (lower rotor speed induces less EMF in the coils).

From the 448 Ohm internal coil resistance it comes that the heater cannot draw 2.6 Amper (even if the 260 VAC output would still be maintained) just because its 100 Ohm resistance is added to the 448 Ohm coil resistance: the current would be 260 V / (448+100) Ohm = 0.47 amper.
Heat dissipation in the heater would be 0.472 A * 100 Ohm = 22 Watts and
Heat dissipation in the generator coils would be 0.472  A* 448 Ohm= 98.9 Watts.
Readers here can now answer this question: Is this a hyper efficient generator? 

(The reduced RPM makes the wanted and unwanted dissipations less than the ones above because the 260 V EMF induced in the coils will also be less.)

There is a 3rd thing what ageofmagnetizm does not want to consider: how the input power to the driving motor increases when the heater is hooked up directly to the generator output. The motor is an off the shelf drill motor and there is nothing in it which would prevent the increase of its input power draw when its shaft is loaded (normal Lenz law is in full action). This is why ageofmagnetizm does not show any input power measurements: he simply declares this I quote from him:

"Accu marking and manuals say 10.8 volts 1.5 ahmpers and 16.2 watts maximuums, and shaft 15 N/m max." 

So he simply takes it granted that the drill motor would not draw higher than 16.2 Watts, no matter how much counter torque is exerted to the motor shaft when it is mechanically loaded.

Now the readers can also decide what it is worth if someone has zero or 3 reported experiments at youtube with 1 or 7 subscribers versus the 34 reported experiments of ageofmagnetizm with 19 subscribers.

Gyula
Edited to correct a typo