Confirmation of OU devices and claims

[partzman]

RF,

For the record, Itsu is one of the best replicators on this forum and although I have not met him face-to-face, I can vouch for his honesty, knowledge, and integrity based on the work we have done together on my various projects alone.  He will go the the nth degree in his efforts to prove or disprove circuit claims at his own time and expense.  I'm sure you can see the amount of effort and work he has invested in his attempts to prove your claims.  IMO, he deserves your respect!

Regards,
Pm

[rickfriedrich]

When you think about, people do not want the attention drawn to them in having a free energy device. Initially you are excited about it and maybe want to tell others about it. But then you will invite negative attention. In many places the problem is securing it. Many people want to steel it. Some just because they want to see such a thing. Others because they want free power. Not everyone wants the hassle of people pestering them about it. When I had my body wrap on my electric Porsche there was not one time that I parked it without someone walking over to me to ask about it. People even searched for me in restaurants to find the owner of that car to talk to me about it. That was fine as it was my work. But that is not fine for others.
As I said before, as G echoed, people just put a few panels on their roof and no one cares after that. Yes it is sad that it takes doing that for people to leave you alone. But people are suspicious and like to assume the worst. What is that guy really doing there if no wires are going to his house? It would be like this. When the power would go out permanently in some place and everything is chaos, then what do you think would happen to the people who everyone knew they had a free energy device?
The truth is that the world doesn't like fast changes. The establishment does not want to be exposed suddenly as liars. They will only allow such things slowly over time so they still retain the control. Soon power usage will all be controlled through the internet of things so having free energy will not be an issue anyway. Most of the first world will be in smart cities and dependent upon and locked into that system and the new currency will be total information control rather than based upon oil.

I'm still in the process of organizing everything on a new website. I had to attend to another matter so the next video and all this has been on hold. But I will try and organize everything that is important on two letter size pages. You will all be very happy for that 

Hi gyulasun

Thanks for the reply, it does seem a sad state of affairs if hiding it would be the answer to such a wonderful thing for humanity as Tesla said todays is theirs and the future for which he worked would be his but I don't know if it will be in my lifetime. Anyway I think I am off topic and will say no more on the philosophy and leave the thread to those doing this great work. I tell you I haven't been to this site so much as when this thread started I love it and I do plan to get expirementing on this but I will need to start further back in Rick's teachings to get up to speed.

[itsu]

Itsu,
Short is fine, but is no virtue. You are claiming to be a replicator but you are not replicating anything here. You are doing your own thing. You are not replicating an OU claim because you are not making an OU claim. This was brought up the other day. What is the meaning of your work here? You have said you do not read what I write nor have you attempted to replicate what I have done. You guys pretend to do that but then admit to not doing that. This is all a big game. Now it is fine to experiment and try things out, but that is not the purpose of this thread is it?
You find it amazing that anyone would doubt you. Why? Are you infallible? Can any of us verify in the real world anything that you are doing? Why should we believe anything you do? You are not making an OU claim. You are making many claims, and because they are not OU claims we are supposed to believe them??? Now that is truly amazing. I saw this right from the beginning and that is why I said to A.King that you are wasting your time with Itsu. He has been at this for years and has not got anywhere because he doesn't know what he is doing. This is all but going around and around in circles. Same old assumptions. And now these guys, along with you, have made you the infallible replicator of no one's claims but your own. This is reckless.
But do not misunderstand me. It is perfectly fine to do what you have been doing in trying things out and posting videos. My objection is with your assumptions about what is implied by such videos. You expect others to believe that you know what you are doing and that they can understand your real-world environment. The only value of your input is merely for others to be able to do something to show themselves. You wish to bypass the real world and expect people to conclude prematurely. So this whole thing is a big game.
You say that anyone can make a mistake, but then take that back in saying videos can not allow for mistakes. But how so? I have watched thousands of videos that don't show the real mistakes that the videos don't show. And why would anyone be expected to trust someone in our day?
Yes it is fine to discuss things that appear to be wrong or mistaken. All agreed there. But to assume that a video proves anything is wrong. It can only give ideas to personally try. Why do you all just want to bypass reality?

Are you all so addicted to science fiction movies that you assume what is on the screen is reality?

Rick,

so many words again.

What the hell do you try to say with: "You are not replicating an OU claim because you are not making an OU claim"

Its these kind of sentences which makes my head spin and stop reading.

Anyway, i am here because a.king21 was very enthusiastic about your work and asked me (among others no doubt)
to start looking into this.

We PMed for a while, then jumped over to this thread.

I am trying to replicate what he presented to me, and as i am no Electronics Expert i usually then present my
findings on a forum like this via posts and video's to have other more knowledgeable people have a look at it
and correct and/or advice me when needed.

The video's are hopefully crisp and clear and for anyone open to ask questions to follow up.
I never "claim" things, i just show what is happening and try to find out why, no more, no less.

Thats the way i work for years and i like it and i don't care if you understand or approve.

Regards Itsu

[rickfriedrich]

P,
I understand what you are trying to say here. But you guys don't wish to address something far more important. I am not saying there is anything wrong with exchanging information back and forth, but so long as people are assuming that something has been proven over the internet then you are all lost at that point. Notice again your point. You vouch for his honesty. Well who vouches for yours? Having 10,000 people say that makes no difference. It still doesn't prove anything over the internet. Why is that so difficult to see??? You guys have been so glued to these forums for so long that you cannot even see what is so obvious here. The more you engage in assumptions the harder it is to see them as that. So you then set up Itsu as an authority. But why? Because you have seen him help you out on a few things. That gives him credibility to you personally. But surely you don't expect others just to assume that? And surely you don't assume he cannot make a mistake? The truth is that you merely benefit from him to the point that you can replicate what he has done. And that is my whole point. It only goes that far. You guys want to make it more than that. You are all looking for a way to make a forum prove something that everyone should believe. But that can never happen. We have done that sort of thing long ago. It is getting old now. It is merely a fantasy. It cannot happen. Because you will always have the realist come in and say as I do: "says who?" Even Hollywood leaves you with the same problem for spiderman who is going to have to try and convinced his fantasy world how a video was faked. You can't rely on videos to prove anything. You can't rely on testimony through this medium. You should only encourage people to prove things out to themselves. But you guys are setting the stage for more fake OU claims to be believed, and real OU claims to be disbelieved. Both are counterproductive. Some of you guys are disinfo people doing this on purposes. Others are just fooled by this game and not thinking about this. But at least I have forced them to partially admit that anyone could be wrong. Now if they will only really admit that to be the case and not take it back in the next sentence.

P, he is not actually replicating anything I am doing because he said he has not even read what I wrote. So he is doing his own thing based upon no OU claim. He is not seeking "Confirmation of OU devices and claims" in this activity. That is in regards to a particular setup. But in regards to a general claim he may be attempting to do something. But again, he would have to work from the right context. And he shows no interest to understand the right context. The videos show that this is entirely new to him. So you guys are expected far too much from him. Again, if he has been at this for years without success, then doesn't that mean anything to you? I guess I don't understand how someone can spend all that time for years and never have anything to is more than mainstream processes. Why not just do something very simple as I have been saying? Why doesn't G and others show why they believe OU is possible? Surely there is some justifiable reason you guys are all here??? Or do you all just like to chat? Or are you all just here to disprove OU? What is the reason you all think OU is possible? Or how can you justify your time spent here doing this? If the laws are fixed as so many things said here imply, then why even bother? But if you can just do a simple thing to see some gain then you can build upon that. Yet if something is suggested it is ignored or disbelieved with fallacy. And no one wishes to offer up any rational reason why we have any grounds for believing in OU. Isn't that amazing on a forum such as OU? Has it therefore just become a place for hackers to disprove OU?

So why does Itsu do what he has done for so many years when he never has had success in experiencing OU? What is the basis for continuing? I would really like to know what grounds he has for expecting to find something. If there are no reasons, that is fine, but we ought to know that before we make him Pope in the infallible sense. Did any of you ever think to ask this?
And the same with G. Don't you think that it would be most instructive if we learned the reason for his one sentence of expecting to find some circuit give additional gains? These revelations would be far more important than anything he has yet written. But he refuses to say a word about it. If he says there are no actual reasons then he will look foolish, especially to the mainstream skeptics. If he actually has some grounds for that sentence then withholding that information is needlessly unproductive considering all the hostilities about this. Why not just come out of the closet G? Tell us one way or the other. Maybe you don't because you want others to do the work for you? I don't know.

But all of you need to ask yourself this question. What is my reason for being here and basis for considering such claims? If you have any foundation for rational belief in OU then why have you not stated it? Why not build upon that foundation? Why keep silent. If you do not have any, then state that. Come clean. Tell us that you have no reason at this point to believe it. That would be helpful. But no, we just all jump right in ignoring all foundations and get crazed about some schematic or circuit that is supposed make someone a sensation or a liar based upon popular opinion!

RF,

For the record, Itsu is one of the best replicators on this forum and although I have not met him face-to-face, I can vouch for his honesty, knowledge, and integrity based on the work we have done together on my various projects alone.  He will go the the nth degree in his efforts to prove or disprove circuit claims at his own time and expense.  I'm sure you can see the amount of effort and work he has invested in his attempts to prove your claims.  IMO, he deserves your respect!

Regards,
Pm

[WhatIsIt]

What is my reason for being here and basis for considering such claims?

"Occam's razor!"

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