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Overunity Machines Forum



Confirmation of OU devices and claims

Started by tinman, November 10, 2017, 10:53:19 AM

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tinman

Quote from: Void on November 15, 2017, 08:38:47 AM
Hi Brad. When the battery and cap bank are in parallel, they are acting as just one large capacitor.
They will all absorb the current pulses in a similar way. The battery can be seen as a very huge capacitance
capacitor, although internally it has a different structure.

Ok,well that go's against every thing i have seen on my bench,as a capacitor will do a far better job than a battery at soaking up pulses of current.

Perhaps i should re-examine this on the bench with the scope.

tinman

Quote from: citfta on November 15, 2017, 08:40:44 AM
Mags,

I am really disappointed in your reaction to my post.  I was only commenting on an idea thrown out by Brad.  He asked what do you think will happen if the circuit is connected like he showed.  It was only an exercise in free thinking. I never suggested it was a good circuit nor an improvement over the original.  In fact as has been pointed out by others the batteries will of course run down as there is no means to keep them charged.  I just thought the idea of connecting the output in series with the power source was a good example of thinking outside the box.

I occasionally get good ideas from you and Brad and Erfinder and others.  I don't always agree with everything any of you post but I still look forward to your opinions and ideas.  If me expressing my opinion about something upsets you so much then I will just keep my thoughts to myself.

Respectfully,
Carroll

I think mags took my circuit as the one i was going to use in my replication.
He may have missed the bit about it being only a thought experiment.

The thought experiment being
-If the motor began to speed up when the switch was switched to position 2,then the generator would also start to produce more power,which in turn would cause the motor to speed up even more--and so the cycle continue's.

If this was the case,then the motor would be receiving more power than the batteries are delivering to it.
Would this be a true power amplifier ?.

Just a thought experiment that we could have tried along the way,with very little modification needed for the experiment.


Brad

Void

Quote from: tinman on November 15, 2017, 08:56:12 AM
Ok,well that go's against every thing i have seen on my bench,as a capacitor will do a far better job than a battery at soaking up pulses of current.
Perhaps i should re-examine this on the bench with the scope.

Yes, they may not 'absorb' the current pulses equally, but because they are
all in parallel they will all still 'see' the same pulses coming from the energizer. This was
my point. The battery is still going to be subjected to pulses from the energizer when the
cap bank and battery are in parallel. 



Void

The biggest mystery that remains to me is how the large capacitor bank can get charged up
to such a high amount in the short cap charging window durations that it can keep the battery fully
charged up when pulsed into the battery. If someone can demonstrate this showing that the battery can
stay truly charged up even when running for 2 or more days steady, that would really be something....

Here is a comment that John Bedini made about the Watson generator in reply to someone using
the user name 'Electricity' in the Energetic Forum back in Nov. 2010.
John mentions you just need 'one mono pole energizer'.  What exactly is Bedini's 'mono pole energizer'?
Does he mean an energizer where all the magnets are oriented the same way and all the coils are in phase?

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http://www.energeticforum.com/117591-post48.html?s=825af460b5aafab19b288e41b7a711ad
11-20-2010, 04:30 PM
John_Bedini

The Watson Answer
Electricity,
The mystery is none as it is right in front of you. I will give it to you again.

The machine requires one DC motor, 555 timer circuit for pulses to chop the DC motor, one mono pole energizer and one large mass weight wheel. The two signals are out of phase from each other, and a capacitor tuned to the energizer. That is the mystery. Other than that some simple wiring, you won't do it on a small scale. As I said it is right in front of your eyes. It's the way you think about it.

On a big scale it's very easy to work on. Simple logic the bigger the generator section is the slower you must turn it. Since it is not a conventional generator you must store the charge before you discharge
the capacitors to the batteries. If the timing is right the batteries charge right up to full.

It's your own mind stopping you from success as your own mind understands what your intentions are, that is what is stopping you.
All your questions have been answered for years. Very easy to see that once the machine works we will never here of you again.
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Edit:
By a 'tuned' capacitor, I would guess he means that you should try different total capacitance values in your
cap bank and see what works best. Obviously though the cap bank total capacitance has to be chosen to charge
to a voltage higher than the battery voltage or the battery won't charge...
In another comment I saw from Bedini somewhere else, he mentioned that the cap bank only needs to charge to 2 volts
above the battery voltage to get good results, but he was referring to a different setup there I think.

John Bedini also mentions above that "you wont do it on a small scale", so it would seem
based on this that if you build it too small scale it won't work...


All the best...

Magluvin

Quote from: tinman on November 15, 2017, 08:53:29 AM
Dear Erfinder

Your post's are now being removed.

You are no longer welcome in this thread--my thread.

So please start your own thread,if you wish to prove us wrong,by building a working Bedini machine,and presenting it to the members of this forum.


Cheers


Brad

Well Ive said what I wanted to, just to make the point on what actual replications are suppose to be. I wont post here anymore either. You can delete my posts also if you like.

Mags