Confirmation of OU devices and claims

[tinman]

Well tonight i gave the pulse charging system a go,and went on the hunt for this high frequency oscillation that is suppose to be taking place within the battery.
It is suppose to be between 2.5 and 6MHz.

Well,it would seem that it is actually there   -->scope shot 1
The scope ground and probe were directly across the battery terminals.

I am also quite supprised at how fast the battery charged using this high current pulse method.

The pulse current had a peak of 9.6amps-->very near 1 volt over .1 ohm CVR

The battery is a new 60 A/H battery--bought for the project.
The battery was pulled down to 12.1 volt's,using a car head lamp. Then i let it rest for 30 minute's,and it rose back up to 12.3v.
Using the pulse charger(which was running of my power supply,at a voltage of 15 volts,the battery was charged to 12.84 volts in 20 minutes. It was then left to rest for 1/2 hour,and settled at 12.76v

The calculated power of each cap discharge is around 510mJ
This was calculated using the scope shot below-scope shot 2.
The cap is a 15 000uF,50v cap.
The blue trace is across the cap,and yellow trace is across the battery.
The frequency is not 1KHz as indicated by the scope. I believe that is picking up the arcing of the contacts in the relay.
The cap dump relay is on for about 100ms,and the cap charge relay is on for about 200ms

Once again-->i have not seen a battery charge so fast,using so little power.

Graham--there may be something in this after all. 

[Void]

Hi Brad. Looks like you are making good progress. By your 'pulse charging system' do you mean
your JB motor/generator setup? If you do, the DC motor may be producing EM noise that is getting
picked up by the scope probe across the battery, so that could be a possible source of the high frequency
pulses seen in your scope shot. Just something to consider as a possibility. I don't know what
your exact configuration was, so just throwing that out as something to consider.

All the best...

[Grumage]

Graham--there may be something in this after all. 

Hi Brad.

I'm very pleased to read that!

Just wound one coil this afternoon to find that at 200 turns it needs 70 grams of Copper wire. Just had to order a 500g spool.

A sneaky preview....

Cheers Graham.

[wattsup]

  If the batteries are in series and equal the discharge voltage, then there would be no discharge to show on the scope..      Mags

@Mags

Yes but what was being discussed was based on one 24vdc discharge into a 12vdc battery. The only way to see the spread of such an effect is to make a comparison to see the same discharge under different scenarios. I would have also recommend discharging the same into a 6 and 18 volt battery as well just to cover a good enough range of variables. The point is regardless of the equal battery to discharge, it is too see it on the scope how it will translate those different events using the same discharge. That's the only way to learn if that is the object.

About magnets all north. Think of each copper and iron atom as having a nucleus similar to an internal Gyro-magnet with its North (GN) and South (GS). When the North (N) wheel magnet approaches from the left, the GS turns to it. The GS then follows the passage of the N magnet until the N magnet abandons the GS while it points to the right. When a next N magnet comes again from the left the process repeats itself. The GS does one "quick turn" and one "follow the passage" and that's what you see on the scope.

If you have alternating N and S magnets on the wheel when the S magnet first comes from the left the GN turns to it then follows the magnets passage so the magnet then abandons the GN on the right and by doing so leaves the GS pointing towards the left. But now an N magnet is approaching and the GS is already on the left so you get no turn action there, only the action of the GS following the N magnet passage. So in S and N magnet placements you will only pickup passage of the magnet and less the approach.

The greatest problem with a magnet passing a iron core with copper windings is that each wind is a loop. So when the magnet gets to the coil, the closest part of the wind reacts in one way while the furthest part of the loop reacts in the opposite where all together you generate more cancellation potential just because of the used topology.

Look at a car alternator. How can so few winds produce 12vdc at 100 amps? Because first of all only one side of each loop is near the rotor so the conveyance has less cancellation hence more output, making that stator load up so much that you need 5 to 6 HP to keep it going. The GS and GN in the atoms are so stressed that a majority are pushed into the opposing polarity that then does the same in the core itself where together they then create the drag ATTRACTION. Drag is excessive attraction. So how can that happen? The magnet did not change. The coil did so the question is how can you produce the same effect while lowering drag? It can only be done with new topologies.

I will post my opinion on replicating separate.

@tinman

Again, such battery charge tests can only be conclusive if you do the following.

1) Charge the battery using a standard battery charger at trickle charge until the charge indicates full charge.
2) Let the battery sit for 10 minutes then measure the voltage. Let's say it shows 13.2 volts.
3) Load the battery and count the time it takes for the voltage to lower to let's 11.5 volts. Don't ever let the battery get below 10.5 volts or you can damage it.
4) Do your own charging method until you arrive at the same 13.2 volts showing after a 10 minute waiting period.
5) Load the battery again and count the time it take for the battery to go back down to 11.5 volts.

If the second load lasts the same length of time or longer, great, if not, there is a problem in the theory of it all.

wattsup

[tinman]

Hi Brad. Looks like you are making good progress. By your 'pulse charging system' do you mean
your JB motor/generator setup? If you do, the DC motor may be producing EM noise that is getting
picked up by the scope probe across the battery, so that could be a possible source of the high frequency
pulses seen in your scope shot. Just something to consider as a possibility. I don't know what
your exact configuration was, so just throwing that out as something to consider.

All the best...

Hi Void.

As stated in my post,i was using my power supply,which is a smooth DC output,set at 15 volts to charge the cap.

Still working on the energizer.