Confirmation of OU devices and claims

[Raycathode]

Jeepers, man.  You come into this thread late and Rick has to reinvent the wheel.  Go to the beginning and read the posts.  Rick shows the inductor upon inductor upon inductor powering his loads in one of his lengthy videos.  If you are gonna criticise Rick then do it on the basis of facts not pubtalk.

Well It's not the sort of answer one would expect unless as he says, if i was in a pub, well thanks for that but I don't frequent pubs on the other hand as you didn't bother to point me to what your thinking of don't you think  your   behavior is  lacking of appropriate seriousness or earnestness here? any way I have more serious issues to get on with thanks.

Raymondo

[ramset]

Rick quote
But this is a coordinated effort by real trolls with a mission. For anyone with any real desire to know these things does not act the way that several of you are acting. Neither does anyone who thinks it is all nonsense.
end quote ....No Rick this is what it looks like when you walk into an open source builder group and say "Build this" .[if thats not what you were saying or implying ? ...its what we heard !!]Its why open source forums thrive ...The model speaks for itself... needs
no critique or endorsement .


Very true ...we took you to heart and listened ..thought you would lead with Build info [PDF]
But instead just drop crumbs to some plans ...Reality is you are in an Open source venue ...its not your fault.
You have different priorities which don't fit here [open source]..or this conversation would be different  and all of these open source fellows would just be saying thank you instead of "HUH"?

I will wait for Stefan to open source ,and then ...watch the internet teach and share.... Chet K
  PS..Please no more same old same old ...I will not write here again ,just waiting on Stefan

[rickfriedrich]

Wow, thanks for enlightening us.
You don't know what anyone does in the real world. All you do is assume the worst. That is your entire contribution here.

Hi Rick, No, you haven't. That is the problem.
You could easily silence any critics by simply showing a reasonable demonstration
which includes proper measurements or which is self-looped, showing something unusual going on,
but you do not do this. It should be no surprise if people are skeptical in such a case.

[rickfriedrich]

I don't see you guys writing about building. You are merely arguing against OU and slandering and diverting. It doesn't matter what this group was intended for, you guys have not kept to that over the last 1.5 months. This has turned into a debate which you have lost. I was sharing but you guys just attacked me whenever I shared anything. Then you demand more. This is exactly the work of trolls. Completely insincere. Merely trying to entrap me at every opportunity.
The problem is that you guys have been fundamentally wrong on these points:
POINTS HAVING BEEN PROVEN SINCE JUNE 2019:
1. OU Claims and Disproof OU Claims Cannot be Proven Over Video, Pictures, and Words Over the Internet. People Can Only do Science and Prove Truths of Demonstration to Themselves In The Real World.
2. Forums Can Only Provide Information to Other People which Needs Personal Verification Unless it is Self-evident.
3. Free Energy and Over Unity Do Not Imply Self-running or Self-looping, while the Inverse is True.

You don't want to admit this. There can be no builder's group if you are expecting impossible things from someone. If you don't even know what science is how can you expect to do science?
The problem is that I have made this all available for years and tens of thousands of people or more have been thankful for that. Maybe you think the world revolves around you, but it a little bigger than that Chet. I'm teaching the principles of free energy with various examples that I have publicly shown over the years. On the one hand you demand certain things, but the next moment you mock me and say it is all impossible. It's like bipolar. It is really A Game of Trolls with the weapons being fallacies. You never took me to heart. I was attacked from the first moment. I have saved all the posts Chet. There are no crumbs here. You just attack anything that is shared.
Look, you saw what your expert Darren or whatever his name is said. He said I was off by 150 to 250 times on the LED. On what grounds? And he is your ultimate judge as you people on OUR have set up. He is obviously the same over here. He is completely prejudiced. And you wonder why I have shared as I have. This whole thing has backfired for you guys. You thought you could disprove OU through these forums by just running over people with fallacies. But I carefully shared what I did to expose all of this while helping sincere people see all the lies and tricks you people pull. None of you trolls will admit the points above now which were settled because of me. So if you can't admit any foundation then you are insincere. You just want circular logic. None of you wants to admit any basis for free energy or OU but you just keep reasoning and assuming against the possibility. Why not explain to me how OU is even possible? Why not tell me why you refuse to answer such questions. It took G a long time to finally admit that he had no grounds for belief at all. He had said the opposite. How can you confirm something is OU if you have no way of understanding what is even possible? The problem it is just not true that "the model speaks for itself." You trolls have already declared that no matter what I say or show it has to be false. But I have shown things for 15 years to thousands of people. That is what I show, real things to real people. Buy who are you trolls? We will never know.

You trolls have failed but you have succeeded in ruining forums like this and discouraging people to participate. I have watched many people come onto such forums and be instantly attacked. No doubt many people are mistaken in what they think they have, but this kind of response surely drives people away from sharing anything. And that your whole agenda isn't it. Draw as much as you can out of them and then attack them in the end to drive them away. I can't prevent you from doing that, so you will continue to win that battle so long as forums allow that.

Rick quote
But this is a coordinated effort by real trolls with a mission. For anyone with any real desire to know these things does not act the way that several of you are acting. Neither does anyone who thinks it is all nonsense.
end quote ....No Rick this is what it looks like when you walk into an open source builder group and say "Build this" .[if thats not what you were saying or implying ? ...its what we heard !!]Its why open source forums thrive ...The model speaks for itself... needs
no critique or endorsement .


Very true ...we took you to heart and listened ..thought you would lead with Build info [PDF]
But instead just drop crumbs to some plans ...Reality is you are in an Open source venue ...its not your fault.
You have different priorities which don't fit here [open source]..or this conversation would be different  and all of these open source fellows would just be saying thank you instead of "HUH"?

I will wait for Stefan to open source ,and then ...watch the internet teach and share.... Chet K
  PS..Please no more same old same old ...I will not write here again ,just waiting on Stefan

[rickfriedrich]

If this is the way you reason or behave in cyberland then you have no credibility about what you say about the real world.
It is one thing to have a healthy skepticism and another to positively state that someone has not done something which you have no way of knowing (lying while calling someone a liar). As I wrote, you have no value to OU research discussions. Your name says it all: Void.

Actually Rick, based on many years of experience, I am very much aware of what people do in the real world,
and that is why I maintain a healthy skepticism about sketchy claims.
I am a reasonable person. If I see something which appears reasonable, I will be much more receptive to it.