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Overunity Machines Forum



12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

Started by hartiberlin, November 30, 2006, 06:11:41 PM

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Alfang

Fantasy, I am with you, I am new to the WM2D program, and although I have set air resistances, gravity, friction, I really dont know what the real world values shoud be.
I dont know if I can set the program defaults to real world, so that each time i start a new project , everything is on that should be and values set.
Or, can someone set up and post a WM2D blank with the correct real world values set, so we can save that as a starting page template. dont forget to save as is under another name so as not to lose your Blank template.

Next question,,, I have found This pendulem machine dificult to ballance.
I will figure it out,,,, but if someone already knows the ideal ratio of weights, lengths, fulcrum points etc....please share the formula, I expect theres one ideal formula and that all scale ups or downs will be directly proportional, I hope.

Heres another thing for those that dont know.  a pendulem at a certain weight will travel the same distance per minute reguardless of the length of the pedulem. I'm gonna make up some numbers for explaination purposes.  lets say a 10 pound weight is suspended 12 inches down and is swung, if you could measure the total distance that the weight travels in 1 minutes time.
It would equall the distance traveled by the same weight if it had been hung on a 2 foot pendulem. I cant quote you the scientist who discovered this, probably newton.

And to be honest, this info doesnt do anything for me, except when someone says that their system works so well the pedulem picks up speed, That will NEVER  Happen in a pendulem powered anything. Why do you think they make clocks with them, once the length of the pendulem is determined, the clock keeps perfect time. at least 19th century perfect.

supersam

well,

maybe, you will want to discover, what   is availeble?  i know as dingus say's i need to make, my own experiments'.  i will!!!!!

lol
sam

fantasyl

Ok, I set the friction to 0.300 (high speed), and doing my own experiment I tried this setup (which I named TRIPENDULUM  ;D ).

It's indeed a "non linear" motion (you find the speed of the ropes, they sure are NOT decelerating), and the machine in the simulation NEVER stops. After about 30 minutes the program gives an internal error (the same in a dingus post before), but the machine would keep going ;D .

I'm going to realize it for sure, but hope someone could give some advice on why this device should / should not work.

IMHO it's a good idea. In the attach you see two box with springs, not connected with the machine. You can extract energy from the device in multiple ways. First idea came to mind is springs connected to magnets, when the machine is "overloading".

FreeEnergy

Quote from: fantasyl on December 20, 2006, 05:11:54 PM
Ok, I set the friction to 0.300 (high speed), and doing my own experiment I tried this setup (which I named TRIPENDULUM  ;D ).

It's indeed a "non linear" motion (you find the speed of the ropes, they sure are NOT decelerating), and the machine in the simulation NEVER stops. After about 30 minutes the program gives an internal error (the same in a dingus post before), but the machine would keep going ;D .

I'm going to realize it for sure, but hope someone could give some advice on why this device should / should not work.

IMHO it's a good idea. In the attach you see two box with springs, not connected with the machine. You can extract energy from the device in multiple ways. First idea came to mind is springs connected to magnets, when the machine is "overloading".


need more details

Dingus Mungus

The velocity measured definitetely shows the system has great trouble finding a point of equilibrium which is exactly what this system is dependent on. Basically the non linear inbalance creates a sort of improbability drive. What I mean is the probality of every component being in the propper alignment to find the equilibrium zone is such a low probability that the device is powered by chaos in a sense.

My only critique is you are not extracting any power from the system with dampeners, and you have no way of proving that your arangement is putting out more kinetic energy the what you put in to the pendulums.

Also what is the pursose of the ancored blocks attached to springs?

Quite an interesting and perplexing new example, and if indeed the pendulums are picking up velocity despite resistance this example may prove to be a big step in the right direction.

Great work and I look forward to hearing more about your tripendulum experiments.
~Dingus