Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated

[onielsen]

Hi Kone,

I don't think it matters much if the coils are spanning several slots or being split up into smaller coils between two neighboring slots. What matters is mixing the magnetic fields into coherence which represents more energy than single coils added do. I'm preparing an experiment using small ferrite transformers instead of a motor stator. You know from your forum that I like doing the experiments in small scale as electronics are scalable. It looks like Pierre's device isn't depending on resonance as the load can be changed without affecting its running. This is unlike the Jensen UDT and Hector transformer that both are affected by changing the load and both have to be fed reactive power for overunity. Pierre's new winding is more like Bob Boyce's way of putting poly phases into a single ring core. Tesla also did that in some of his patents. This forms rotating poles extending out of the ring core.

Pierre's first stator has the magnetic fields in parallel while the current is in series. This makes the stored energy coherent and makes the stored energy increase to the square of the current. In his new stator the magnetic fields are in series and the current is still in series I guess. The field through the blocked rotor core may still be in parallel and thus could become coherent. I.e. the field from two neighboring similar poles may become mixed into a coherent field representing more energy than the single fields added before being mixed. This is the principle of inversion of Wilbert B. Smith.

I'm currently designing only six bridge outputs for running six transformers which probably is the smallest number possible if it has to work like the device of Pierre. Pierre's device has some of the coils shorted which makes them act like permanent magnets even though having loss because of the resistance of the wires. It can be made simpler if the coils don't have to be shorted. Perhaps I should prepare for making it possible to switch between shorted and not shorted coils. The non-shorted coils will demagnetize and 'discharge' to the voltage supply rails through the parasitic diodes in the MOSFET outputs.

By the way people should also know about the Molina-Martinez (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20030168921A1/en) and Hyun (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20040007932) patent applications. They both claim overunity from ordinary three phased rotating fields and even from two phased fields (Hyun). They both use a locked rotor as secondary. This makes it possible to use a standard stator without having to rewind it by feeding it with three-phased AC. I haven't seen proof of this concept before the Pierre Cotnoir device.

Regards
Ole

[konehead]

Hi R2
I plan on making brush copper commutator for this (15 pole and two N S brushes)
thanks for the good advice however but I am itching to wind the stator...
I wish I knew how and why it loops and is overunity I can only guess right now

[onielsen]

Hi Kone,

I wish I knew how and why it loops and is overunity I can only guess right now

It mixes the magnetic fields into a coherent field.

The mathematics behind coherent fields as opposed to just fields of superposition by Janos Vajda: 'VIOLATION OF THE LAW OF ENERGY CONSERVATION IN WAVE FIELDS' https://feprinciples.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/energy_from_wave_fields_1-21.pdf.

Andrei Melnichanko also explains the principle: 'Opinion 1. Transgeneratsiya.'
http://www.google.dk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2F13750%2Fmelnicenko-self-running-device%2Fdlattach%2Fattach%2F126928%2F&ei=qI4qUpjsI6fx4QTFxYEo&usg=AFQjCNH0k4YN33F_CslpOovifoNqOtsAIg&bvm=bv.51773540,d.bGE&cad=rja

and part two: http://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&twu=1&u=http://izob.narod.ru/p0007.html

And of course Wilbert B. Smith in 'The New Science' in chapter X  explains the Principle of Inversion without telling exactly how to practically do it: https://www.wanttoknow.info/energy/wilbur_smith_new_science#ch10forces.

Magnetic energy stored in a coil is coherent as it increases to the square of the current creating the field. Two equal but separate coils having the same current through them each represents say one unit of energy. Now let the coils share the same core (space) but having the turns in series and the same current as before through them. By doubling the number of turns quadruples the inductance of the coil. Having the same current through the coil gives four times the energy of a single coil. This makes the single coil of double the number of turns store twice the amount of energy as that of the two separate coils of the same current. This is just by mixing the magnetic fields into the same space.

The trick then is to input the fields in separate forms and mix them into a coherent field. Normally separate fields just pass through each other like beams of light and separates from each other like ocean waves crossing (superposition). But the fields have to become one single new field (coherent) just like a LASER beam which doesn't break up in different directions after having formed.

Regards
Ole

[MenofFather]

What do you guys think? What would you do very briefly for some advice if you also had a 30 pole stator to wind up??'[/size]

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i think better replicate first generator. but maybe all his dz generators is fake? [/size]
i not be replicate any generator, because not enaught information how replicate and maybe this generators is fake. maybe i wrong.[/size]

[listener191]

What do you guys think? What would you do very briefly for some advice if you also had a 30 pole stator to wind up??'[/size]

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i think better replicate first generator. but maybe all his dz generators is fake? [/size]
i not be replicate any generator, because not enaught information how replicate and maybe this generators is fake. maybe i wrong.[/size]

Hi MenofFather,

Several theories have been tabled in this thread but I would say you need to rely on your own belief in a theory of operation.

If you don't believe that this has at least a 50% chance of producing a favorable result, then don't attempt a replication, as there is a lot of work and cost associated with the build.

Regards

L192