Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated

[gotoluc]

Thank you MichelM for sharing your idea which we will look over and consider.

Regards
Luc


Fr. Merci MichelM pour avoir partagé votre idée que nous allons examiner et considérer.

Cordialement
Luc

[seaad]

Nous nous approchons alors des descriptions les plus récentes du générateur de Figuera.

En.  Hello Luc,
We are then approaching the most recent descriptions of the Figuera generator.
MichelM

This is my wild idea and only a suggestion . How to solve it technically is a different matter. Not yet considered. :

From post; https://overunity.com/17609/170-watts-in-1600-watts-out-looped-very-impressive-build-and-video/msg517907/#msg517907

PIC 1  : "When ONE magnet pole passes by a coil core we get ONE FULL SINUS ! With TWO magnet poles (same polarity N-N or S-S) ==> TWO SINUS"

    "Quand UN pôle d'aimant passe par un noyau de bobine nous obtenons UN SINUS COMPLET! Avec DEUX pôles d'aimant (même polarité N-N ou S-S) ==>
     DEUX SINUS"

PIC 2  : As Figuera;  Only one sort of magnetic pole passing the each end of the fixed output coil.
With this concept the magnetic rotation only have to be 10Hz giving 60 Hz out.

    Comme Figuera; Une seule sorte de pôle magnétique passe à chaque extrémité de la bobine de sortie fixe.
    Avec ce concept, la rotation magnétique ne doit être que de 10 Hz pour 60 Hz.

P.S. reference: https://overunity.com/17609/170-watts-in-1600-watts-out-looped-very-impressive-build-and-video/msg518160/#msg518160
https://overunity.com/17609/170-watts-in-1600-watts-out-looped-very-impressive-build-and-video/msg518221/#msg518221
https://overunity.com/17609/170-watts-in-1600-watts-out-looped-very-impressive-build-and-video/msg518328/#msg518328

Regards Arne

[onielsen]

Here is a questions I think everyone can answer here. 

Do you ever see overlapped field poles on a DC or AC generator?

So why the heck are we connecting 5/6 coils in series to create our POLE?  Hopefully this is more clear and why this direction needs to be resolved.  Pierre's stator is nothing more than rotating field poles. As long as you keep the poles opposite from each other on the armature, your fine.  So the slot spacing per coil is your POLE width as well as it determines your opposing location on the armature!  Another words, you can not create this device with 5 poles.  You can do it with 2 or 6....but not 3 or 5 poles. 

Hopefully this is making sense. 

Jerdee

Hi Jerdee,

The way the fields are mixed isn't by just simple superposition (i.e. addition) of the fields. To have more energy out than spent to make the field it has to become coherent like done in LASER light. That way the waves don't ride through each other like two beams of light crossing but becomes a new single wave representing the addition before doing the squaring (coherent instead of simple superposition). Normally to make the separate waves become a single coherent wave the single waves has to mixed in a nonlinear media. Else the waves just slip apart or ride through each other which is normal superposition or interference. The question then is: Is the core working around the point of magnetic saturation?

My guess is that Pierre's device actually manages to mix or merge the separate fields of each coil into a new coherent field that doesn't slip apart. The ratios of energy then becomes:

Input energy: 1² + 1² + 1² + 1² + 1² + 1² = 6
Output energy: (1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1)² = 36

Or actually it's 12 coils (six coils in each end) giving the difference in energy levels of 12 times:
Input energy: 12
Output energy: 12² = 144

This is just my guess. The ratio will have to be measured.

Regards
Ole

[gotoluc]

Message from Pierre

bonjour a tous!... imaginé toute les possibilité avec cette méthode et ne vous fier pas a mon dessin en passant que c'est le secret, ce n'est qu'un exemple pour vous aider un peut.  il y a de nombreuse possibilité de filer les bobines avec cette image. a vous de voir pour la suite et encore une fois ne penser pas que c'est le secret, il y a vraiment plus que cela. vous avez la rotation mais il y a beaucoup d'autre chose de cacher dans le dz. a vous de voir la suite .
pierre c.

En. Hello everyone!... imagine all the possibilities with this method and do not rely on my drawing thinking it's the secret. This is only an example to help you a little. There's numerous possibilities in wiring the coils with this image. It's up to you to see how it's completed and again don't think this is the secret, there's really a lot more than just this. You have the rotation but there's a lot more hidden things in the dz.  It's up to you to envision the rest.
Pierre C.

Text  translation in picture:  you don't need 72 relays to power all the coils

[pmgr]

I'm sure Pmgr EE Theory is correct but I'm interested in physical results. So why is it not working out that way in the real physical tests?

Regards
Luc

You are doing your measurements way past the cut-off frequency of the rotor/stator steel. Do a measurement of the output voltage at something like 30-50Hz with the new thinner output rotor coil and see what voltage you get.
PmgR