Bifilar pancake coil overunity experiment

[partzman]

Hi Partzman. I don't know exactly what your circuit arrangement was when doing your measurements,
but, if I understand you correctly, measuring a COP of about 20+ one way and measure a COP
of about 2+ another way seems to indicate that something is quite wrong there somewhere.

Hi Void,

What do you propose is the source of the large differential in COP?  Which one is more accurate?

Regards,

Pm

[Void]

Hi Void,
What do you propose is the source of the large differential in COP?  Which one is more accurate?
Regards,
Pm

Hi partzman. I am not sure, as I am not sure how you did your measurements.
Was your measurement method the same as what Itsu was doing in his last couple
of measurement tests? Did you have the isolation transformer at the input as well?

[partzman]

Hi partzman. I am not sure, as I am not sure how you did your measurements.
Was your measurement method the same as what Itsu was doing in his last couple
of measurement tests? Did you have the isolation transformer at the input as well?

Same basic schematic as TK but no isolation transformer. 

Pm

[Void]

Same basic schematic as TK but no isolation transformer. 
Pm

I see. I think you may well need the transformer at the input like Itsu is doing since the transmit pancake coil is
open circuit at one end, so very hard to measure the input power to it otherwise. That may be where you
are having a measurement issue.

[tinman]

OK,how easy is OU to achieve ?

Easy
First take your bifi coil.
Set up as circuit below--secondary open.
Crank FG up until more power is being returned to the FG by the bifi coil,than the FG is delivering.

First scope shot at 1Mhz
Second at 9Mhz-->OU  . I mean,the calculated power has gone negative   


Brad