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Perpetual motion based V track or V gate 3

Started by juliotony, November 03, 2018, 08:15:38 AM

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gyulasun

Hej Vidar,

You sound clinging to the words 'narrow range'  I mentioned and from this you eventually conclude this setup is non workable and will stop.

And you introduce the word resonance for this setup and of course you are free to call the periodic up and down movement of the spring as a resonance but the working principle does not need such resonance, it is just a consequence of the rotating weight when it is coming down from the top towards the bottom and compresses the spring, and this displaces the wheel from the V gate's sticky point. The spring then gives back the stored energy by lifting up the wheel to its normal position again. 
It is ok that the V gate and the weight + spring are lossy and stop when they are built separately. But when you combine them as shown by the inventor, you need to build the setup to draw valid conclusions.
So I disagree with your thoughts.  :-)

Gyula

Low-Q

A spring, a weight, a narrow range. These three sounds like a resonance circuit to me, but that's me :-)


It should be easy to build though. Learning by experience is priceless education. I guess it takes less time to build it, than argue that it will work. Do you have plans to build a test model, btw? If I can help, please ask.


Vidar

gyulasun

Hej Vidar,
Well, what you say is valid backwards too:  it takes less time to build this setup than argue that it will not work. 
It is the task for the inventor to build and test his ideas, I shared my views on his setup as you or others here did too. 
Thanks for offering help, by the way,  I may consider it,  will see. 

Gyula

Low-Q


I think I will build this. 3D printed parts is easy, and as a spring, some length of stiff plastic will do - like leaf springs.
Then attach a weight that moves the wheel down and away from the sticky spot.
However, I think the sticky spot will occur earlier. And when you pull away the magnets, you will drag the stator field with it and also weaken the "efficiency".
Instead of a bouncing wheel, you can arch the V-track-end inwards a bit (towards the center of the wheel) to achieve the same increased spacing you want from the bounce method. It will probably work just as good, but with less engineering and complexity.


Vidar
Quote from: gyulasun on November 26, 2018, 02:13:20 PM
Hej Vidar,
Well, what you say is valid backwards too:  it takes less time to build this setup than argue that it will not work. 
It is the task for the inventor to build and test his ideas, I shared my views on his setup as you or others here did too. 
Thanks for offering help, by the way,  I may consider it,  will see. 

Gyula