Zero and Q device

[v8karlo]

#85 : 2,5 times more compared with Victor Arestov power/ load saving device : his led drawn instead 25 minutes 65 minutes : 65/25= 2,6
You see v8karlo: the right way ! But your is by pieces quantity number  simpler ergo easier/ cheaper to bild !

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20041118&CC=WO&NR=2004100349A1&KC=A1#
Capacitor in number serie + di/triode in number serie + resistor in number serie :

Let us see what is the C. O. P. max. !

Yes lancaIV.

I am counting that all of you are better engineers that I am.
That is why I made it open source, for you. For all of you.
Lots of good people and lots of brain power.

If you build it you will soon know about it more than I am.
I won't be needed any more at that point. And I am glad for that.
In my pdf I tried to explain principle and that is good point to start.
The law of serial connection can be used to get more.
The components are performing more than one task at same time.

Lighting a bulb and filling capacitor at the same time. 2 tasks.
And then using energy from capacitor once more trough bulb.
You are using energy twice.
And then cap CZero using law of serial connection to double grid voltage at same time,
filling caps to double voltage, so the power in caps is double. (175V so little less than double)
Without CZero on each cap will be only cca 90V, but there is 175V on each cap while it works.
But there are 3 caps, so they triple the current with double voltage in them.
So simple circuit, but every component does at right moment what it supposed to do and cooperate with others.

More than one task for every component.


So, yes.

[Void]

There is a common pattern to many of the 'free energy' claims in forums like this.
A claim is made that some setup is producing 'free energy' or 'OU'. Typically little or no efforts are made
to do proper analysis and measurements, to try to understand what is really going on in the circuit.
If anyone points out any issues with assumptions being made about the setup and suggests some proper
measurements be made, the free energy claimant will frequently claim they are being 'attacked'.   
However, if someone is pointing out quite legitimate issues with the assumptions being made about a
circuit and suggesting proper steps be taken to analyze the circuit and to make proper measurements,
and they are being attacked for that, something is obviously very wrong there.

V8karlo, if your 'zero' circuit is really 'free energy' as you claim, then it should stand up to proper analysis
and proper measurements, so there should be nothing to fear from such an analysis, right? Hoppy did nothing
more here than point out that he thinks you are making some incorrect assumptions about your zero circuit,
and you jumped all over him. That is very irrational to say the least. V8karlo, the real question is, are you interested
in really understanding what is really going on in your setups or not? If you are not really interested in trying to learn
how your circuits really perform, then why post the info here? In such a case you would be better off posting to
some other place like energeticform.com where people who make unsubstantiated claims and who often do not make
any proper measurements at all are treated like great heros. Proper analysis and proper measurements are very much
feared over there.

On the other hand, if you are actually interested in understanding how your circuits really work and perform, then please stop
attacking people who take time out of their day to give you some honest feedback regarding what they really think about your setups.
You are in the wrong place if you think that sort of very irrational behavior is going to get you very far here. If you are charging
capacitors using one half of the AC cycle from the mains to charge the capacitors, then the energy used to charge those capacitors
is coming from the mains.

For this to be 'free energy', you would need to somehow return energy back to the mains at the same energy level
(without any energy losses), or at a greater energy level. However, if some/much of the energy stored in the capacitors is being
consumed by a resistive load before the current is returned back to the mains, then it would appear that you are not returning all the energy
back to the mains, which was drawn from the mains to charge the capacitors. Some basic proper measurements should confirm what is
really going on there. If your circuit really is free energy, then doing those proper measurements should not be an issue at all then, right?
Anyone who is really interested in understanding what is really going on in your 'zero' setup should actually welcome
closer analysis and proper measurements to see how the circuit is really performing, right? Otherwise all a person
is doing is playing some fantasy role playing game, no?

[v8karlo]

V8karlo, if your 'zero' circuit is really 'free energy' as you claim, then it should stand up to proper analysis
and proper measurements, so there should be nothing to fear from such an analysis, right?

I don't claim anything. Others build it and started to claim.


I agree with you.

I won't try to explain it any more.
You build it and you explain to this forum and rest of world why the input bulb is not lit
and output bulb has light and heat.

But, build it. Don't  just look at scheme and say "this is fraud".


Please, be my guest.

I am not joking at your account.

Please build it and explain it. When you build it, you can measure it and explain it.

Please. It is not joke.

V8karlo, if your 'zero' circuit is really 'free energy' as you claim, then it should stand up to proper analysis
and proper measurements, so there should be nothing to fear from such an analysis, right?

If I am afraid it won't be open sourced. (And it is open sourced so you can try it and measure it.)
And in that case nobody will be able to reproduce it.

But people did replicated it.

Everything is out there. On the open.
Everybody can make it and look at it.

One hour of spare time.

I didn't made something foggy. I made very detailed blueprint how to do it.

[Void]

I don't claim anything.

Hi v8karlo. I am sorry but what you are saying there is false.
Here are some direct quotes from your "The Zero Device" PDF.
"Immediately is visible that out is more than in and the heat is present on output which means power."
"But this is first documented and explained free energy device."
"Now you have your first Free Energy device to play with."

Don't just look at scheme and talk "this is fraud".

Again that is a false statement. I have seen no one say here "this is fraud".
You also stated the following in an earlier post in this thread:
"You and others said before that I am faking light and heat in Zero device."
That is also a false statement. I have seen no one state that here.
We can see in your picture in your PDF that the light bulb is lighting up a bit,
and I haven't seen anyone disputing that here.

You build it and you explain to this forum and rest of world why the input bulb is not lit
and output bulb has light and heat.

v8karlo, I am very busy with work and with various other things right now, but if no one else
does it then I will see if I can find some time on a weekend to build your zero setup and
do some in depth analysis and measurements on it. If I find in my testing that it is really 'free energy'
then I will be happy to state that here.
All the best...

[v8karlo]

v8karlo, I am very busy with work and with various other things right now, but if no one else
does it then I will see if I can find some time on a weekend to build your zero setup and
do some in depth analysis and measurements on it. If I find in my testing that it is really 'free energy'
then I will be happy to state that here.
All the best...

OK, fair enough. You see, we didn't have to fight from the beginning. This is right way to talk.


And when you build it, it will be yours.