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LET US ALL HELP RAYMOND BUILD THIS NEW FREE ENERGY MACHINE.

Started by seychelles, April 02, 2021, 11:42:42 PM

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Floor

Ray's device and video @

     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J8uPhKwjG4

I'm not an expert, but I think my observations and calculations are correct.

Some observations.   (with corrections, typo fixes and changes )

1. We don't know the exact lifting height of the 72 coins.
2. A long run time (maybe 10 minutes ? ) will give a more accurate result.
3. An auto counter installed upon the lifter would give an exact count of the number of
times lifted in 1 hour.

Note...
It looks like only 1/2 (one direction) of the the back and forth motion of the
output is being utilized to do lifting.

If this is correct, then the out put is actually 2 times more than is being shown in
the video ?   But then again, using both of these motions will affect the input power
as well.

calculations
1 U. S. quarter dollar coin weighs 5.67 grams
5.67 grams per coin, times 72 coins.

5.67  x  72 =  408.24 grams total lifting per stroke

130 lifts in 103 seconds  =   1.262  seconds per lift
(from 5 minutes and 54 seconds to 7 minutes and 37 seconds in the
video = 103 seconds)

lifting height = 3/8 or 0.375 inch ? (approximation from video, could be way off)
should be measured / stated.

0.375 inch = 0.00952 meter

0.00952  x 130 repetitions = 1.2376 meters
... ... ... ... ...
102 grams exerts 1 newton

408.24 grams  / 102 grams = 4.00 newtons
... ... ... ... ...
4 newtons x 1.2376 meters = 4.9504 joules in 103 seconds

4.9504 joules / 103 seconds =  0.048 joules per second
                            or
0.048 watts mechanical out put
                           and
0.01 amp x 4.2 volts = 0.042 watts electrical input.
... ... ... ... ... ...





                                IF
Ray's device as presented, is in fact functioning at unity, (that is to say, if my estimation of the
lifting distance of the 172 coins was correct)
                                and
Ray's electric power in, measurements are accurate.
                                then

1. Given that the driving electric motor functions at less than unity, his device
is demonstrating cyclic work from magnets.

2. If the pulley which lifts the coins were made to be eccentric, in such a manner as to
match the       force change   to   distance change      curve of the magnetic forces...
                             then also      (and by consideration of this factor solely)
the device is exhibiting cyclic work from magnets.

3. When the energy expended to cause acceleration against the inertia of the coin mass
is taken into account,
                             then also       (and by consideration of this factor solely)
his device is demonstrating cyclic work from magnets.

4. Even if my estimation of the height lifted is an over estimation, it remains to be
seen, whether or not the device is O.U. or can be made more efficient.


h20power

Quote from: seychelles on April 02, 2021, 11:42:42 PM
HE DESERVES RESPECT, OUR FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE AND WE CAN ALL JOIN IN REPLICATING
THIS SIMPLE DEVICE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J8uPhKwjG4


I too am deserving of your financial assistance and yes you all can join in so that I can build this technology and set it lose in our world. I've already went out of my way to show the actual science behind this technology, showed screen shots of voltages thought of as impossible being applied to a WFC, and so much more. All that is needed right now is funding and the technology will be completed in a timely manor.
Please your help is truly needed if this technology is to have a chance at breaking through all the resistance it is being given: https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me


The future of energy independence is in your hands

kolbacict

Quoteshowed screen shots of voltages thought of as impossible being applied to a WFC,
I can't do it. alternating current and high frequency are absorbed by water.
Constant voltage is unattainable due to high electrical conductivity.
I wanted to measure the capacity of the WFC  I'm tired already.

NdaClouDzzz

Quote from: h20power on April 08, 2021, 01:25:09 PM

I too am deserving of your financial assistance and yes you all can join in so that I can build this technology and set it lose in our world. I've already went out of my way to show the actual science behind this technology, showed screen shots of voltages thought of as impossible being applied to a WFC, and so much more. All that is needed right now is funding and the technology will be completed in a timely manor.
Please your help is truly needed if this technology is to have a chance at breaking through all the resistance it is being given: https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me


The future of energy independence is in your hands

Greetings, Edward
I remember reading a few years back on some forum or something about someone donating a couple hundred thousand to someone working on Meyers tech. The person claimed that they donated the money and never got anything in return. Can't remember any names or where I read it. Does that story ring any bells?

Floor

@ seychelles

I hope you don't mind that I have posted this again.

Quote from: Floor on April 08, 2021, 08:44:22 AM
Ray's device and video @

     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J8uPhKwjG4

I'm not an expert, but I think my observations and calculations are correct.

Some observations.   (with corrections, typo fixes and changes )

1. We don't know the exact lifting height of the 72 coins.
2. A long run time (maybe 10 minutes ? ) will give a more accurate result.
3. An auto counter installed upon the lifter would give an exact count of the number of
times lifted in 1 hour.

Note...
It looks like only 1/2 (one direction) of the the back and forth motion of the
output is being utilized to do lifting.

If this is correct, then the out put is actually 2 times more than is being shown in
the video ?   But then again, using both of these motions will affect the input power
as well.

calculations
1 U. S. quarter dollar coin weighs 5.67 grams
5.67 grams per coin, times 72 coins.

5.67  x  72 =  408.24 grams total lifting per stroke

130 lifts in 103 seconds  =   1.262  seconds per lift
(from 5 minutes and 54 seconds to 7 minutes and 37 seconds in the
video = 103 seconds)

lifting height = 3/8 or 0.375 inch ? (approximation from video, could be way off)
should be measured / stated.

0.375 inch = 0.00952 meter

0.00952  x 130 repetitions = 1.2376 meters
... ... ... ... ...
102 grams exerts 1 newton

408.24 grams  / 102 grams = 4.00 newtons
... ... ... ... ...
4 newtons x 1.2376 meters = 4.9504 joules in 103 seconds

4.9504 joules / 103 seconds =  0.048 joules per second
                            or
0.048 watts mechanical out put
                           and
0.01 amp x 4.2 volts = 0.042 watts electrical input.
... ... ... ... ... ...





                                IF
Ray's device as presented, is in fact functioning at unity, (that is to say, if my estimation of the
lifting distance of the 172 coins was correct)
                                and
Ray's electric power in, measurements are accurate.
                                then

1. Given that the driving electric motor functions at less than unity, his device
is demonstrating cyclic work from magnets.

2. If the pulley which lifts the coins were made to be eccentric, in such a manner as to
match the       force change   to   distance change      curve of the magnetic forces...
                             then also      (and by consideration of this factor solely)
the device is exhibiting cyclic work from magnets.

3. When the energy expended to cause acceleration against the inertia of the coin mass
is taken into account,
                             then also       (and by consideration of this factor solely)
his device is demonstrating cyclic work from magnets.

4. Even if my estimation of the height lifted is an over estimation, it remains to be
seen, whether or not the device is O.U. or can be made more efficient.