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Energy Generation by moving Mag Field through Static Steel Core & Copper Coils

Started by Ufopolitics, April 07, 2022, 09:40:19 AM

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Ufopolitics

Hello,




I have moved to a 20 tooth armature due to the lack of room to do more windings on the 12 tooth...I will have to change it to a finer gauge (33) to obtain the right resistance required to drive field at higher voltages and lower amperages...so, actually I am working on three setups at the time.


This armature came off a BOSCH 700W PM Motor, I have two of them, one is completely wound with "Asymmetrical Type" and this one was already stripped off all windings...


I made it fit inside the stator of an AC (Central Air Conditioning) Blower Motor, 3 speeds by Die Grinding the interior Stator metal...lot of work!!


The way I wound the Armature is the same way as I did the 12T previously shown, but adapted now to a 20 T.




It is basically 8 pair of coils, wound with 28 gauge and like 100 turns each coil, which will give me like 4.2+ Ohms per coil


Thanks to this ratio, I can drive the Magnetic Field with 60V and like one (1) Amp...at idle RPM's (not going 3600) but like 1500-1800


I am attaching some images of the whole thing already assembled.




Regards




Ufopolitics
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Ufopolitics

WINDING 16 COILS INTO A 20 TOOTH ARMATURE

I am attaching the winding plan here...as the wiring sequence to 16 elements commutator


I am also making a video, of different steps on the winding, that I took while I was winding the armature in different steps to final.


First, I started by the Two Pairs of Blue Coils (1-2) and (9-10) exactly apart by 180º.
All Coils are wound Clockwise (CW) when facing at me...

I am using 28 gauge, around 57 feet which comes up to around 100 turns and extending to four(4) tooth on armature.


The last Pair of coils would be 15-16 and 7-8 also at 180 degrees apart, where the end of coil number 16 will attach to start of coil number one (1) and the end of coil number eight [8] will attach to start of coil number one (1)


This way the full loop of all coils will be closed.


Cheers


Ufopolitics
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Cadman

Thinking about generating with a rotating field of the armature. There are two magnetic fields involved with the armature, the iron and the coils. Each field begins and ends with it's source and taken together they have the effect of a single field. But this new scenario is different than the usual inducer which uses a fully established combined field at all times, only changing with the load.

In this new scenario the iron field is almost constant but the coil fields all expand, contract, change polarity, expand and contract every revolution. Rotating at a rate that produces the strongest field for the coils time constants (5) would give an averaged over time field strength which would be much less than the maximum continuous field. Rotating faster using fewer time constants would result in a weaker coil field, less amperage on the input and in turn a weaker iron field and the output watts would drop accordingly.

If this is accurate, then common sense would indicate the need for design changes to compensate. Coils with small time constants and more turns to achieve the needed ampere turns, which would need a larger armature with more iron to produce an output comparable to a motored generator.

Small time constants and more turns is counter intuitive but can be achieved with multiple windings in parallel for each coil. But that costs more input amperage. Lots to balance.

Just some thoughts for consideration.

Regards
Cadman

Ufopolitics

Quote from: Cadman on May 10, 2022, 12:21:12 PM
Thinking about generating with a rotating field of the armature. There are two magnetic fields involved with the armature, the iron and the coils. Each field begins and ends with it's source and taken together they have the effect of a single field. But this new scenario is different than the usual inducer which uses a fully established combined field at all times, only changing with the load.


Hello Cadman,

And many thanks for your input, it is always welcomed.

Ok, I would say first that I love this type of debate...however, I disagree with you on part of the above...

As I only see one Field, IMHO, the iron core serves as the "vehicle" or saying it more "Scientific"...the "Medium" where the Field moves, flows.
With a steel core (design) we could redirect a Field displacement polarity, change its angle, and even fraction it (dividing Field) into multiple poles, like is the case with the automobile Alternator...However, it is the same exact Field that is generated by the coil that runs parallel to the alternator shaft...

If you get a permanent magnet and approach a piece of steel at very close gap...you will observe very clearly -through a simple viewing film- that the Magnet Field literally "jumps" about half of its spectrum spatial embodiment into the iron piece...Now, that does not means that the iron now have its own field.
The iron piece just served as the "appropiate vehicle" where the field Mutates to...partially, though.

The above is the main principle of Induction, my friend...and remember that Magnetic Fields are purely Directional, like a Laser Beam, coming off the very center of each of their poles face.

Quote from: Cadman on May 10, 2022, 12:21:12 PM
In this new scenario the iron field is almost constant but the coil fields all expand, contract, change polarity, expand and contract every revolution. Rotating at a rate that produces the strongest field for the coils time constants (5) would give an averaged over time field strength which would be much less than the maximum continuous field. Rotating faster using fewer time constants would result in a weaker coil field, less amperage on the input and in turn a weaker iron field and the output watts would drop accordingly.

You have just nailed it, on the above bold statement, by me!!

And that bolts down to what Pierre Cotnoir was saying about the Field "Resolution"...or in detail, that these systems work much better with a "Higher Resolution Field".
Which means higher number of coils, and since they are all in series, we could afford lower number of turns per coil...lower resistance, that of course, would need to be calculated.

For example, in a 36 Coils Armature we would be moving the Field at a ratio of 10º for each two coils that reverse, exactly at 180º...
Remember, in this setup, one coil would be leaving South to become North, and exactly at 180º, another coil would be entering South and leaving North...meaning the Field displaced exactly 10º towards the rotation sense.
If we break down the Pole number of Coils would be exactly 18, and using an angled four brushes, like I have recommended to narrow the Field Angle, would leave about two coils on each side inactive (just conducting), so, say in reality we will always have a minimum of 16X2 Coils always on, or 16 per pole.
That is a pretty good and higher resolution.

Quote from: Cadman on May 10, 2022, 12:21:12 PM
If this is accurate, then common sense would indicate the need for design changes to compensate. Coils with small time constants and more turns to achieve the needed ampere turns, which would need a larger armature with more iron to produce an output comparable to a motored generator.

Exactly...

Quote from: Cadman on May 10, 2022, 12:21:12 PM
Small time constants and more turns is counter intuitive but can be achieved with multiple windings in parallel for each coil. But that costs more input amperage. Lots to balance.

Just some thoughts for consideration.

Regards
Cadman

Yeap, and we do not want to rise the Input Amperage too much, but try to always drive it on the low side...however, always trying to keep the Field strong enough as to keep a constant and robust output.


Yes, lots to balance!!

Many thanks for your comments!!


Regards


Ufopolitics
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Ufopolitics


THE HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A TRUE SINGULAR MAGNETIC FIELD VERSUS MULTIPLE SMALLER FIELDS OVERLAPPED TOGETHER.


Hello to All,

Regardless of the achievements, I am still NOT happy with the results...

The two circuits, representing the two polarities of individual coils in series, that configures one single field...still does not fully form a true singular field.
This is clearly noted when looking with magnetic viewing film, the fact that each independent coil have its own center wall, Bloch wall or Dielectric Field as Wheeler's Theory...point is, whatever the "name" we give to this clearly seen center line, that this should not happen, it does not happen in a Singular Magnetic Field.

A Singular Magnetic Field MUST have just ONE Center Wall...and, as we rotate field this wall should rotate as well...and this is not happening here.

Each Coil keeps its own Dielectric Field or Bloch Wall...and that's not good, it means we still have a fractioned Magnetic Field.

And this whole issue relates to a simple answer...GEOMETRY.

Say we build Two identical but separate Coils...and we could feed them with just one source...now, if we stack them N/S>N/S, perfectly aligned by a center imaginary axis, one on top of the other...they will form a single Bloch wall right at the joint between both, or where I set the "greater than" symbol (>).

However, once we start moving just one of the coils in a Radical Angle*...there is a point-angle where that common center wall will disappear...and return to two individual walls for each coil...

When these two Coils were aligned and just one center wall appeared, there was a Singular Field formed by the two coils.
Once this center, common wall is gone, the singular field is gone, that simple.

Now, we could project both coils aligning them with the same poles orientation, say both with North on top, next to each others, no matter if overlapped or not...and yes, we will have two North Poles but not a Singular North Field...as each coil would have its own division wall.

If we could measure Magnetic Field strength for both cases...will notice when they had a Common division wall, stock one on top of the other...that would be the strongest field strength than when set side by side, aiming separatedly independent poles...and most importantly to notice...with the same Source Input of same currents!!

Radical Angle*: The common wall will still be there for smooth, narrow angles...soft curvatures between both coils will still prevail the Singular Field.

It is not supposed that when rotating the Field at higher speeds, it just "fades off"...and Induction will decrease...so, we need to increase Input.

In my opinion, this is due to the lack of the system design, to form a TRUE SINGULAR FIELD from multiple coils arrangement.


Regards


Ufopolitics
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Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.
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