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Barbat low inertial mass generator

Started by tak22, April 21, 2007, 06:17:33 PM

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allcanadian

I think the common thread in most of these devices relates to the moray device, where radium was used to dope a copper conductor in his tubes. The radium "radiates" producing an outward bias in motion like a zero threshold diode using ionization to produce the bias. Or like an amplifier tube without the heating element to produce ionization--a cold tube. How could an amp tube "amplify" without the ionizing heater element? maybe if this cuperous oxide layer could hold residual ionization for any length of time it could act in the same way, like a cold ionizing bias source. This ionization would imply high voltage in some form if this is the case.
What everyone always assumes is that these devices utilize conventional low voltage/low frequency current which is seldom if ever the case.
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zerotensor

A few thoughts:

1.  In the case that the photons are generated by a coil, they are RF, and the "photoconductive" property must be active in this region of the spectrum for the device to work.  Perhaps CuO has this property.

2.  I think that the low-mass electron theory is off the mark.  Instead, what may be happening is that the presence of magnetic vortices (eddy currents) in the semiconductor film may be disrupted by the absorption of photons, thereby changing the electromagnetic properties of the coil.  This allows the material to "do work" on the overall EM field configuration as it switches between the semiconducting and conducting states (or maybe it switches between p-type and n-type -- who knows?).  Ideally, the input photon energy will be far less than the energy which can be extracted from the changing B-field.

3.  This seems to be related:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pF36PsLQOI

In this case, the photons are in the near-visible wavelength, the substrate is fiber-optic, and the layer is YBCO.

4.  For food-grade 30% H2O2, there is a company called Oxy-Tech that sells the stuff.  Just watch out, 'cause the Feds might be watching as this is a popular reagent for producing high explosives.  You might be able to find it at a health food store.  And be careful!  This stuff can really burn you.  If you do spill some on your skin, having some vitamin C crystals (also from the health-food store) on hand could save you serious skin damage.  After flushing the affected area with lots of water, pour the vitamin C onto the skin and make a paste, and repeat.  This will short-circuit the free-radical action of the peroxide.

tak22

an update for those that might be following this project:

- purchased a DSO and am getting familiar with how to use it

- found a local plating expert to work with me on the CuO cupric oxide on copper wire problem

- once we decide on a wire treatment method I will be able to offer wire to others that may want to experiment

- purchased a selection of variable caps for the controls

- more research and learning

tak

Vortex1

Hi tak22

QuoteThe Barbat patent is an absolutely incredible document 

Agreed. I first learned of it this morning and can't stop reading and re-reading. Thanks for the invite here. Hope I can contribute something

......V

Vortex1

Hate to post twice in a row but things are a little dead around here, so here goes.

Several mysteries with this patent

1. Why does Barbat not put his "sending coil" co-axially inside a magnifying coil made of copper tubing with a treated inside surface (photoconductive) such that all of the photonic induction can impinge on the inside surface of the magnifying coil tube.
A co-axial approach such as this would minimize radiated losses. Alternately a long copper pipe with inside surface treated and co-axial with  a wire running from end to end as the sending coil. With suitably spaced insulating washers or beads, this assembly could be wound into a coil and put into a pot core to completely contain stray fields.

2. Barbat has me confused in saying that normal transformer action is the result of photonic induction. If this is true, the photons have no trouble going through opaque insulating paper and wire varnish in a typical transformer. But then his arrangements seem to imply the photonic induction is like visible light and carefully places his devices to optimize direct illumination as if it were light.? Barbat tries to make the case that normal radio waves are the result of photonic induction into and out of antenna structures and then extends this to normal transformer action. Wikipedia seems to agree (def:photon)

3. The magnifying coil in fig.1a, 2a and 3 represent a shorted transformer winding.  This would cause extreme absorption of energy and heating of the magnifying coil. All of the energy will go to this winding in the form of heat, and nothing will be left for the output winding. Am I missing something? Now if it works, I don't mind having such a heater, but how does he get useful work into his output winding with a shorted winding absorbing everything?

Maybe Stephan could invite Mr. Barbat to this thread to explain or clarify a few (non-proprietary) things,

Some ideas:

Does anyone think this will work? Purchase some 1/4 or 3/8 O.D. copper tubing. Clean the inside by circulating a mild acid using a small pump. Rinse with water, then circulate peroxide for as long as necessary.. Rinse again with water. Should have a nice uniform oxide coating on the inside.

Now thread a cotton insulated copper wire (sending coil)  through the center of the copper tubing.  The entire assembly can be formed onto a bobbin and set into a magnetic structure such as a large ferrite pot core.

Activating the sending coil, all of the photonic induction will impinge on the photoconductor on the inside wall of the tube, as they are co-axial. This should make the assembly highly efficient.

If you like you can add the work coil to the bobbin as an outer winding on top of the magnifying coil., but as is should make a pretty good heater if the kind of gains Barbat is claiming are anywhere near true.

Another method for oxidizing copper tubing interior would be to heat the tubing, while slowly running some pure oxygen through it.

.regards............V