Chas Campbell free power motor

[linda933]

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[Eddy Currentz]

Hi Linda,
I appreciate your candor in admitting you are here for your own amusement. Do you also frequent religious sites and shower them with derogatory comments about their faith? Do you get off by ridiculing little kids for believing in Santa Clause?
Nobody here owes you anything, least of all any sort of justification for what they believe. If I want to believe that Chas Campbell is the second coming of Christ it's none of your concern.

[shimondoodkin]

campbel gravity motor model, seems that it have to work

i have made a simple test in Working model software

test2.gif and test3.gif are animated



it is 3.6 not 6.3 in the test3

[oouthere]

Hi Linda,
If we all just took standard physics at face value, as you apparently do, we wouldn't be here. However, once one studies the works of people like Bruce Depalma, Jim Murray, Milkovic, Tesla and many others, a different understanding emerges. These guys have explored aspects of physics way beyond what is established in the textbooks as definitive science. They have discovered that the laws of nature do not always follow the laws of science.
Building and studying Milkovic's double oscillator has given me profound insights into the mechanism of a rotating mass. I have found that centrifugal force is a real and important element in this type of system. Standard physics says the centrifugal force is a phantom force, and it's really centripetal force in disguise. I have found this to be utter bullshit. Standard physics claims that a rotating mass can be completely defined according to classic Newtonian law. More bullshit.
When I find a lot of BS on one side of the argument, and a lot of interesting results on the other side of the argument, I tend towards the side that smells better. You can call this futile flight all you want to, but you will never really know until you personally explore the phenomenon.
It's easy to sit back and criticize and ridicule those who are trying something new. However, nothing new has ever been discovered by people who do this. It's the guys in the garage who don't give up, and keep plugging away at it who find success.
Hanging around forums like this one will provide the cynic with endless fodder for ridicule. This then begs the question: what's the point? Do you find it gratifying or amusing to belittle and criticize those who are trying to understand a new concept? Or are you trying to sow doubt and cause disruption for some other reason? Why are you here Linda?


Ted

Milkovic had me baffled for awhile as well.  The best way to think of it is comparing a 409 pump bottle to a bug sprayer.  The bug sprayer has to use built-up air pressure to push the fluid out of the bottle but the 409 pump bottle has to be repeatidly pumped, and pumped hard.  The bug sprayer is not over unity....just easier for that particular application.

Rich

[Eddy Currentz]

Milkovic had me baffled for awhile as well.  The best way to think of it is comparing a 409 pump bottle to a bug sprayer.  The bug sprayer has to use built-up air pressure to push the fluid out of the bottle but the 409 pump bottle has to be repeatidly pumped, and pumped hard.  The bug sprayer is not over unity....just easier for that particular application.

Rich

The interesting thing about the Milkovic machine is how the power is generated. When the pendulum swings down it lifts the weight on the other side of the lever. When the pendulum swings back up, the weight comes down.
Milkovic says that there is no effect on pendulum from the secondary. I don't really agree with that statement. When the weight comes down, it lifts the pendulum's axis of rotation up. This transfers energy back and adds it to the swing of the pendulum. Then the pendulum swings down and picks up the weight, thereby transferring the energy again.
So, why is this mechanism any different from a simple teeter totter?
The power in the system is generated in the down swing of the pendulum. Centrifugal force is generated which exerts force on the axis of rotation, pulling the lever down. This then effectively increases the radius of the pendulum's arc and slows the pendulum down. As the pendulum starts back up on it arc, the weight on the other end of the lever pushes down, lifting the axis of rotation back up. This movement decreases the radius of the arc of the pendulum and speeds it up.
Angular velocity has varied throughout the swing, but angular momentum has been conserved because the original axis of rotation is restored. The centrifugal force generated by the pendulum has done most of the work. This is where the power gain is generated.
A relatively small amount of power is required to keep the pendulum swinging compared to the work being done in the secondary. I see centrifugal force being utilized while still conserving angular momentum as the key to this mechanism. It still is going to require a lot of experimentation and study to fully understand all the parameters and nuances involved, but I think it has a lot of potential.