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Successful TPU-ECD replication !

Started by mrd10, June 12, 2007, 05:12:47 AM

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MeggerMan

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June 28, 2007, 05:56:47 PM
@Darren,
Quote from: z_p_e on June 28, 2007, 10:21:06 AM
Easier depends on what you want to achieve for flexibility. For pure f1, f2, f3, the circuit I posted is the easiest, and was not meant to be flexible in regards to generating anything other than f1, f2, and f3.
Your circuit posted here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2535.msg36260.html#msg36260
Not sure if the flip flops U1A & U1B will start off correctly.
Also the duty cycle is a bit strange, and the sync seems lop-sided.
All avenues need exploring so give it a go.

Quote from: z_p_e on June 28, 2007, 10:21:06 AM
Going back to SM's material, this is what is required, and I tend to stick to what the inventor has told us. Any changes or deviations, and we're no longer building strictly to the few undisputable facts he has given us.
Do we know for a fact that the frequency ratios are 1 : 1.5 : 3 ?
Did ELV get back to you about shipping to Canada?
Email customer services and ask Stephanie about shipping.
I am still translating the manual into English and I will add  some of my own photos.
[edited]
Attached is a very rough copy of what I have so far:

Regards
Rob

dani1

#626
June 28, 2007, 07:07:04 PM
Sorry Ronotte, but  as i see IMGP2296 i guessed the bulb brightness consumes about 30W, and  now i see your specs and the input power is in that range. Looks like ecd is a transformer up to now. ??
d.

Bruce_TPU

#627
June 28, 2007, 08:22:39 PM
Quote from: dani1 on June 28, 2007, 07:07:04 PM
Sorry Ronotte, but  as i see IMGP2296 i guessed the bulb brightness consumes about 30W, and  now i see your specs and the input power is in that range. Looks like ecd is a transformer up to now. ??
d.

No Dani, not a transformer of power.  You are thinking Watt for Watt (my guess is you are an engineer? :) )  What we see with the ECD is power CONVERSION.  The DC input is nothing.  We see the creation of electricity.  And no it is not OU yet, but it is simply a matter of time.  Please reread the start of this thread and the .pdf compiled by Otto and Roberto.  Both of whom are well seasoned men, both in years and experience.  There would not be this level of excitement if all we were doing was inverting DC to AC.

Build one Dani and help us!

Happy Days!  :)
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

gaspo100

#628
June 28, 2007, 09:19:01 PM
Quote from: MeggerMan on June 28, 2007, 05:56:47 PM

Attached is a very rough copy of what I have so far:


Rob,
could also post the schematic of your DDS20? Thanks.

Peter

z_p_e

#629
June 29, 2007, 12:02:25 AM
Quote from: MeggerMan on June 28, 2007, 05:56:47 PM
@Darren,
Quote from: z_p_e on June 28, 2007, 10:21:06 AM
Easier depends on what you want to achieve for flexibility. For pure f1, f2, f3, the circuit I posted is the easiest, and was not meant to be flexible in regards to generating anything other than f1, f2, and f3.
Your circuit posted here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2535.msg36260.html#msg36260
Not sure if the flip flops U1A & U1B will start off correctly.
Also the duty cycle is a bit strange, and the sync seems lop-sided.
All avenues need exploring so give it a go.

Quote from: z_p_e on June 28, 2007, 10:21:06 AM
Going back to SM's material, this is what is required, and I tend to stick to what the inventor has told us. Any changes or deviations, and we're no longer building strictly to the few undisputable facts he has given us.
Do we know for a fact that the frequency ratios are 1 : 1.5 : 3 ?
Did ELV get back to you about shipping to Canada?
Email customer services and ask Stephanie about shipping.
I am still translating the manual into English and I will add  some of my own photos.
[edited]
Attached is a very rough copy of what I have so far:

Regards
Rob

Hi Rob.

The circuit I posted works well in the sim, and I did mention in that post that Dave (CTGLabs) built it and it worked straight away for him. The duty cycle is a slight problem as I mentioned (66% instead of 50%), but later in a post ( http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2535.msg36268.html#msg36268 ) I suggested that the outputs be followed by a one-shot with adjustable pulse-width. Many people are doing this anyway. Many ways to skin this cat, just choose your favourite I suppose.

I'm not sure what you mean by ratios of 1:1.5: 3. The circuit divides as follows:

Master (f3)-->/1.5 (f2)-->/2 (f1). Am I sure that SM means fundamental, 2nd harmonic, 3rd harmonic? ...Pretty sure I suppose. This is what he says exactly:
QuoteThe first frequency, then second harmonic component into the second, then the third.

How do you interpret the above?

I did email customer service at ELV, and she wrote back that they do not ship to North America. I posted this a while back also. I'll keep looking.

Thanks,
Darren
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