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The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

Started by ltseung888, July 20, 2007, 02:43:44 AM

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hansvonlieven

Quote from: Top Gun on May 14, 2008, 06:00:05 PM
@Hans,

Let me repeat the Lee-Tseung Lead Out theory in Physics terms without the mathematics.

(1)   In Physics, if there were a force and a displacement, there would be work done.  This applies to an entire system such the entire 3 forces on a pendulum or on an individual component such as the tension of the string.
(2)   In applying the Lee-Tseung Pull to the pendulum, tension is maintained on the string.  If we focus on the string, there is force and there is displacement.
(3)   Thus we can calculate the work done by the string.  This is absolutely correct in Physics.
(4)   However, where does the work (and energy) from the string come from?  If it does not come from the external force, the only remaining logical and reasonable source is Gravity.  My many diagrams show that the force and energy from the string does not come from the external force in many cases.  The most convincing is pendulum28.jpg.
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5)   Thus during the Lee-Tseung Pull, gravity does work via the tension of the string.  This energy is the Lee-Tseung Lead Out energy.

This is the essence of the Lee-Tseung Lead Out theory!  Lee-Tseung are the first ones to bring out this fact and record it in their patent applications.  However, the logic and mathematical calculations should be understandable by any one knowledgeable in ?O Level Physics?.


GROAN !!!!

You don't get it Lawrence, do you?

Yes, there is energy in the string. And yes, gravity is responsible. And yes, you can lead out this energy - by cutting the string.The pendulum drops to the floor.

Point proven!   The Lee Tseung Theory wins!   Whoopydoodleshit, free energy at last!

Well perhaps not.

The energy in the string was put there by whoever put the pendulum up in the first place. Someone had to lift that pendulum bob and fasten the string that suspends it. That took energy. In fact just about the same energy you are leading out by cutting the string,

Funny thing that.

Maybe, just maybe there is such a thing as conservation of energy after all and the Lee Tseung Theory is not all that great. Perhaps that means the spaceship won't fly either. I have to check my mathematics on that.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

chrisC

Quote from: Top Gun on May 14, 2008, 06:00:05 PM
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This is the essence of the Lee-Tseung Lead Out theory!  Lee-Tseung are the first ones to bring out this fact and record it in their patent applications.  However, the logic and mathematical calculations should be understandable by any one knowledgeable in ?O Level Physics?.


Old Tseung:

Do you have a memory like a goldfish?

Not so long ago, we have convincingly 'disclosed' your PTC patent application remarks from the examiners which basically throws out your patent application as unpatenable. Is it not? If so, why do you still bring this up as if you've discovered slice-bread? Your Lee-Tseng patent is not worth the application paper you filed!

Why is it so difficult for you to admit there is NO Lead Out energy? You have sincerely misunderstood your Physics and it's that simple. Someone or something has to use the energy to set your 'parallel-o-gram' of springs into the equilibrium positions. You have conveniently discounted that part of the equation.

Even a 'O' level; strudent could have told you that. You don't need 2000 plus posts and endured a ton of insults in this forum to realizze your mistake. Is this why the people who 'invited' you to speak of this marvelous Lee-Tseung Lead-Out theory is suddenly so quiet because they themselves are thoroughly embarrased? Except that you still think of that event as a high point in your career?

Wouldn't it be more sensible to admit you're wrong rather than continue to dig a deeper hole to hide the previous dirt? 

cheers
chrisC

Pirate88179

Just remember the barrel of apples analogy.  NOT the barrel of apples and oranges analogy.

Bill
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Top Gun

Quote from: hansvonlieven on May 14, 2008, 06:28:45 PM

The energy in the string was put there by whoever put the pendulum up in the first place. Someone had to lift that pendulum bob and fasten the string that suspends it. That took energy. In fact just about the same energy you are leading out by cutting the string.

Dear Hans,

You identified one way of giving energy to the pendulum by raising it up vertically..

You should also consider pulling it horizontally and keeping the tension of string tight.  The pendulum will also rise up.  Then apply your ?O level Physics? analysis of Force, Displacement, Work and Energy.  The string has tension ? force.  It also has displacement.  Work is done ? not by your raising it up.  Your horizontal force cannot do vertical work.  So work must have been done by another source.  That source is Gravity.

The Physics and Mathematics cannot be wrong.



Pirate88179

TopGun:

"A horizontal force can not do vertical work?"


Have you never heard of an inclined plane?  A ramp?  Do they not have these in China?  These are very complicated devices that allow one to push using a horizontal force and raise a heavy object in the vertical plane at the same time.

Your statement shows you know a lot less about physics than anyone I have ever heard of.  This is crap!!!

BIll
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