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Bob Boyce TPU thread

Started by hartiberlin, July 26, 2007, 12:03:41 PM

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MarkSnoswell

Hi all,  I have just done an experiment that demonstrates the presence and ease with which longitudinal waves can be efficently driven. I have started a new thread in this private area for experiments on Longitudinal waves -- http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2877.new.html#new

cheers

mark.

PS. I'll be offline for a day helping our school team out at the 2n'd round of the HPV super sereis www.pedalprix.com.au
Dr Mark Snoswell.
President of the CGSociety www.cgsociety.org

Bruce_TPU

Quote from: Bob Boyce on July 27, 2007, 11:46:18 PM
My first foray into a 3 phase device was during experimentation with a g-strain energy absorber as theorized by professor Shinichi Seike. Needless to say, the results were not what I expected when I connected a 3 phase air core toroid to the 3 phase outputs of the g-strain energy absorber board.

I had been doing these experiments at home, and that was where my lightning strike injury occured in 1995. That put an end to my 3 phase research for a number of years. When I did start back into it, I soon tired of the expense of burned out electronics and loads. I went back to the lower powered single phase transformers and stuck with that until I worked out some of the control issues that would to allow me to get back into the 3 phase design in a more controlled manner.


Hi Bob,

Thank you very much for your history of the initial spark into your TPU research.  I have often wondered if your research was the cause of your lightning strike.  Florida, being the lightning capital of the country, combined with high energy research, I see now, was the cause.  If I understood correctly, this occured during experimentation with a g-strain energy absorber and your air core TPU, or at a later date?

And is that why you have gone to the iron powder core, from the air core, because it affords you greater stability and control, which outweighs the expense and weight issues?

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Bob Boyce

@bruce

The interesting part was the experiment was not running at the time of the strike. But the strike did enter the room where I had been running an earlier experiment with the 3 phase toroid driven by the g-strain energy absorber board. I am under the impression that the running of the experiment had somehow imprinted an energy pattern upon me that may have attracted that lightning to me. The lightning entered the room, entered my right hand, exited my right ankle, and left the room via the telephone line. I was quite understandably shaken up, but I was able to drive myself to St. Marys Hospital (in West Palm Beach FL) emergency room where I was treated and released. The pain in my chest afterwards was something I would not wish upon anyone! All I could really do was take pain pills until the pain subsided. Considering that I had a well grounded (three 20' long 1/2" dia copper pipes, one connected to each leg of the tower at the base, and a 20' long 1/2" dia copper pipe at each guy wire point) 160 foot radio tower only 20 feet away from that room, that entire house should have been well protected under the "cone of protection" provided by that tower. That particular lightning strike defied all common sense of good lightning protection. It was as if it targetted me directly, despite the well protected location. I have had avalanches occur since then, but I make darned sure that I am very well protected against lightning before running any of these experiments now. I have had the metal building struck but it has not penetrated inside. There are 8' long 5/8" dia copper clad steel ground rods at each corner of the metal building. I have an 8' X 10' PVC utility building that I can remotely run the experiment in while I watch from the safety of my metal building on a closed circuit TV monitor.

Yes, the core provides stability. I do use a low permeability core to avoid saturation from the bias. The lower you go in frequency, the fewer impulses (kicks) you get per second. This results in less power density, but also lowers the relativistic effects in the core. So sure, it is a trade-off of control vs power. If the controller were to be fitted totally within the "eye of the storm" ie center of the toroid space, power density could be greatly increased. My main concern would be losing control in a runaway situation and the controller ignoring command signals from outside due to these relativistic timing changes. Energy induced in even DC control wiring can override those control signals. You would not want to be anywhere near that if it happened.

I do not like to use ferrite or laminated iron cores. With the high permeability, they can only be used at very very low frequencies and very lower power densities

One "trick" that can be used to improve power density a bit at lower frequencies is to go from 3 primaries to 6 primaries, ie 2 phased sets of 3 phase drive coils. I did not do this for the hydroxy gas related cores due to the pulsed mode of operation, but I did experiment with it in the RMF energy cores.

Bob

weri812

hello Bob

like the added coil to your tpu

i am going to make 2 of your tpu using your board  pwm3f-hp.
you said that  you are using 20ga instead of 16ga is this what you recamend
or is that what you are using for the  top and bottom  coil only.
and  we wind ccw on all coils in  usa?

thank you for helping
wer





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Motorcoach1

 Bob thats intresting that you mentioned the lighting strike. We were doing transducer expieriments at Gruman in WP , to keep barnicacles from growing on the bottom of boat hulls and the more we tested the more strikes we were getting so the project was abandoned. I was following the Hydroxy over @ yahoo but my pouter got hit and wiped me out for a while and then I could not get my password to work and had contacted yahoo many times on it to only get BOT messages. Thanks again for helping us in this wondorus expieriment and please folks be safe !