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Overunity Machines Forum



Newman machine with a closed loop selfrunning without batteries or solar panels

Started by hartiberlin, July 26, 2007, 09:40:54 PM

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zero

The age of the scientist plays no matter.

Maybe they dont care if they die,  but what about their grandchildren?

RunningBare

I built a Newman motor weeks ago, I rebuilt it, rewound several times, the best I've got out of it so far is a 1 hour 24 minute run from a 2 Farad capacitor that was initially charged to 20 volts, then it runs no more, I've had it connected to 12 volt 18ah batteries, ran it for days and watched the battery voltage fall reallllllllyyyyyyyy slowly, the Newman motor does not do as advertised.

hartiberlin

Quote from: RunningBare on September 14, 2007, 10:31:10 PM
I built a Newman motor weeks ago, I rebuilt it, rewound several times, the best I've got out of it so far is a 1 hour 24 minute run from a 2 Farad capacitor that was initially charged to 20 volts, then it runs no more, I've had it connected to 12 volt 18ah batteries, ran it for days and watched the battery voltage fall reallllllllyyyyyyyy slowly, the Newman motor does not do as advertised.

Sounds not bad!
The question is, did itdo more work, than the batteries or the cap delivered over time?
It must of course overcome the airfriction and mechanical bearing frictions
and the coil ohmical losses !

So the question is, if a 1:24 hour run on the 2F cap was not already a proven
overunity operation ?
Maybe only with 120%,but that sounds already pretty long !
How much input milliamps did your motor draw ?
Then we can calculate it.
WHat wasyour ohmical resistance of your coil ?
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

RunningBare

At 20 volts my motor barely draws 16ma, the coil resistance is somewhere in the region of 150ohms consisting of nearly 2475 turns of enameled copper wire, I could run this motor on my 12volt 18ah battery for a month easily, but it has very little torque, certainly not enough to do any decent work with.

And yes, the 16ma is because of the short on time by the commutator, obviously if I stalled in the on position the current drawn would be 20 volts divided by 150 ohms = 133.3ma.

This motor has no OU and the efficiency is an illusion because of the lack of torque, if I tried loading the output, even grasping the rotor lightly with my finger will stall it.



Quote from: hartiberlin on September 15, 2007, 05:27:03 AM
Sounds not bad!
The question is, did itdo more work, than the batteries or the cap delivered over time?
It must of course overcome the airfriction and mechanical bearing frictions
and the coil ohmical losses !

So the question is, if a 1:24 hour run on the 2F cap was not already a proven
overunity operation ?
Maybe only with 120%,but that sounds already pretty long !
How much input milliamps did your motor draw ?
Then we can calculate it.
WHat wasyour ohmical resistance of your coil ?
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

rMuD

I seem to remember stefan saying something awhile ago that their was something with the spark gap and carbon, and that's really where the extra power was coming from

on that note, an this guy deleted his you tube account, but if you search for "Negative Resistor"  you will see posts from a account Jdub6d9  where he took some kinda silica powder, and made a glass bead that when you close the electrical loop it ran a motor alot faster, and he did have it hooked to a WFC at the same time to the motor...