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Overunity Machines Forum



Newman machine with a closed loop selfrunning without batteries or solar panels

Started by hartiberlin, July 26, 2007, 09:40:54 PM

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helmut

Quote from: Pirate88179 on September 30, 2007, 05:44:10 PM
QuoteLet?s assume 99% based on how long these batteries are lasting.

I agree with a lot of what you said except the above quote. Why would we make this assumption at this number?  If you are going to pick a number at random, 99% seems a bit high to me.  Everything else that you said makes good sense to me. Why constuct a machine like that and have no real way to verify or quantify the output, if any? I like the alternator/generator idea, easy to measure with very consistant results I would think.

Bill


Perhaps Newman will not get in conflict with any law about the elektricity production?
His technical skills are high enough to supply a alternator via  flightwheel.
But his kontakt details are known.Why not ask him by letter or mail?

helmut

klamathpro

Quote from: Pirate88179 on September 30, 2007, 05:44:10 PM
QuoteLet?s assume 99% based on how long these batteries are lasting.

I agree with a lot of what you said except the above quote. Why would we make this assumption at this number?  If you are going to pick a number at random, 99% seems a bit high to me.  Everything else that you said makes good sense to me. Why constuct a machine like that and have no real way to verify or quantify the output, if any? I like the alternator/generator idea, easy to measure with very consistant results I would think.

Bill


Well, 99% is just a wild estimate, I'll give you that, especially since Newman cries 200,000% efficiency.  But I was considering the fact that many large conventional motors with commonly attainable superconductors have high efficiency already. Taken from ?Mechanical Engineering Online?:

?..97 percent, which is the performance of most conventional large electric motors.?
http://www.memagazine.org/backissues/membersonly/june01/features/reality/reality.html

And some are at 98.5% efficiency. So since Newman?s machine is definitely not conventional, I?m assuming 99% (or more) efficiency, maybe it's assuming too much, I don't know.  But his machine can run for hours on 9v alkaline batteries.  It would almost have to be close to 99% efficient to even run a machine that size for a few minutes!  I feel that what happens in the remaining 1% is critical. Even 0.001% inefficiency, just shy of unity, is going to cause the batteries to die. It may take a few hours or a few days, but it will happen.  Run one of those large ?conventional motors with 97% efficiency? on as many 9v alkaline batteries in series as they need, and I?ll bet they?d be dead in less than a minute. So in that line I figured 99%, but it?s not gospel that?s for sure.  I appreciate your feedback on the matter.

Pirate88179

Klamathpro:

Thank you for your response. I was just curious where that number came from and you answered me, and I appreciate that.

Bill

See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

Tink

HartiBerlin,

I found the 3 moviefiles but I can't upload them as a reply it seems.
Every time I get this on screen after a minute of waiting:

Start new topic
   
The following error or errors occurred while posting this message:
Your session timed out while posting. Please try to re-submit your message.
No subject was filled in.
The message body was left empty.

I did not start a new topic, I pressed the reply button and attached the 3 files.
Maybe a bug?
How much can your mailbox have?

(Edit)
Anyway, in one of the movies he talks about the clay and he got it from http://www.pyroclay.com/ .
Synergy is the key to free energy.

hartiberlin

Hi,
how many Mbytes are each one ?
Over here the upload can only be around 5 Mbytes
for a movie, otherwise the server will
have a time out during upload.

Please try to upload to
www.megaupload.com
and post the exact URL to over here.
Many thanks.

Is this clay he is using conductive ?
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