Newman machine with a closed loop selfrunning without batteries or solar panels

[Humbugger]

Ampere-hour
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An ampere-hour (abbreviated as Ah or A-h) is a unit of electric charge. One ampere-hour is equal to 3600 coulombs (ampere-seconds), and is the amount of electric charge transferred by a steady current of one ampere for one hour.

The ampere-hour is a unit frequently used in measurements associated with electrochemical proceses such as electroplating and electrical batteries. Although it is not a direct measure of the energy in a battery (like the joule (J) or watt-hour (Wh)), it is a common rating of how long a battery will last (or in the case of a rechargeable battery, how long it will last when fully charged).

The commonly seen milliampere-hour (mAh) is equal to 3.6 coulombs.

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A 48V battery rated 10Ah holds four times the energy of a 12V battery rated 10Ah.  Each battery can deliver* 10A for an hour but the 48V battery, in doing so, is delivering 480W for that hour and the 12V battery is delivering only 120W for it's hour.  Energy is power x time.  The 48V battery holds 4x the energy of the 12V battery.

*In practice, the Ah ratings are specified to perform at a chosen, usually lower, discharge current.  A 10Ah battery, for instance, might be rated to discharge for 5 hours at a 2 Ampere current.  5h*2A=10Ah

[argona369]

This is a very interesting discussion on AMPS, not quite the same as ampere hours
But amps do interest me, and quite frankly I?m not sure what amps and volts are.


http://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia_term/0,2542,t=amp&i=37731,00.asp
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/ampere

Amps is a measure of electrons ( a charge carrier) moving past a point. But as we know
electrons don?t move in a wire they transfer from one to the other,
moving electrons is electron drift.

So lets assume that what there really talking about is the ?bumping?
Of electrons as the measure of amps.
But we know that voltage is part of the measure of power.

Lets use just one electron. One electron bumps the end of a wire.
And the transfer down the wire is at light speed.
Is  bumping it lightly 1 volt? or smack it hard one million volts?  Is this the real measure of voltage?

One amp is so many collisions (transfers) at any point in the wire. But wait there?s voltage.
Do the collisions contain different amounts of energy? But the transfer is at light speed already?
I read somewhere (I looked but could not find it) that its more like an electromagnetic ?packet?

So what is voltage then?

[EMdevices]

Great, you're all very smart and sharp and know where to look up infoÃ,  (the web)Ã,  LOL Ã, 

Lets talk about the video


But first let me say that I've heard of Joseph Newman's machine, here and there for quite a few years, but just in passing.

I never actualy saw the guy or any of his videos and all I knew about him was that he used a BIG coil to make a motor but it wasn't over unity.

So is that him in the video?

What a clown !!Ã,  I expected somebody else I guess, I don't know, somebody more profesional, educated etc..

He talks nonsence in the video, keeps harping about 9 volt batteries for TOYs puting out so much power and points to that freaking paper, very irritating!Ã, 

I'm thinking where is the power?

This guy doesn't know what power is.Ã, Ã,  A spinning wheel that's not loaded consumes so LITTLE POWER.Ã,  Only enough to overcome FRICTION.

I can keep a disk like his going with 0.05 amps from a 9 volt battery or even less, just make sure the bearings are realy good.

The only significant event in the video (and I didn't watch more then 10 minutes due to the unbearable stupidity I was seeing) was the ramp up in speed.Ã, Ã,  Some of you pointed that out already.

Is he telling us his disk is weighingÃ,  thousands of pounds?Ã, Ã,  Yeah sure, that's a bunch of crap.Ã,  That disc is probably carboard.Ã,  But even if it would be aluminum or something heavier,Ã,  there is enough POWER available in those batteries to accelerate the thing.

So I hope he shows us a CLOSED SYSTEM someday.

EM

[hartiberlin]

Hi Emdevices and Humbugger,
you are right with your amphour examples.

So the energy stored in Newman?s 16 x 9 Volts battery pack was about
144 Volts x 0.625 mA x 1 Hour= 90 Watthours.

That means, it can deliver 90 Watts one hour long or
30 Watts 3 hours long or 10 Watts 9 hours long
or 1 Watt 90 hours long, etc...

I guess this motor draws about 100 milliamps in this demonstration at
144 Volts.
YOu can calculate that from his earlier test with his solar panels
at 400 Volts using about 0.27 amps of input current.
As the input is linear at 144 Volts it would be 97.2 mA.

Okay, so lets say it is about 100 mA of input current.
then the batteries would be able to power this motor
for 6.25 hours.
We just saw one hour.
But as the backspike recharges the batteries quite nicely these
batteries would even last much longer.
At least in intervals.

Regards, Stefan.

[hartiberlin]

P.S: Looking finally forward to see the selfrunning motor
of Joe.