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I need help with a KEELY project

Started by hansvonlieven, September 20, 2007, 05:30:42 PM

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IronHead

Dale Pond has alot of info on the Keely motor and a forum of builders dedicated to this motor.
Dale is without a doubt the first authority on Keely's works . He has dedicated his life to Keely's work.

Here are the replications
http://www.svpvril.com/

He is the Gallery
http://www.svpvril.com/JKMotor/index.html

Here is Dale's Forum
http://svpvril.com/phpbb2/index.php


Here and old lecture by Dale Pond
http://earthharmonics.blogspot.com/2007/04/dale-ponds-on-john-worrel-keely.html

hansvonlieven

G'day Ironhead and all,

Thanks for the links. I know Dale Pond, he is aware of my work and I am of his.

As a matter of fact he was the first person I approached with the above problem. For those interested, here are Dale's comments on the matter.

http://svpvril.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?p=2478#2478  This is on Dale Pond's forum

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

hansvonlieven

G'day Stefan,

Whilst it is true that after Keely's death he was accused of fraud, it is also true that the people that accused him thus had much to gain by it.

Keely in his career had built over 2000 devices in his workshop in Philadelphia. Of course he had compressed air facilities as well as other motors there.

The motor in the picture on the top had been demonstrated running not only in Keely's workshop but also in front of thousands of people at the Philadelphia World Exhibition. I seriously doubt that the organisers of the event would have permitted Keely to conceal a compressed air sphere underneath his stand in order to deceive the public.

Keely disassembled his motor on many occasions to show its construction. Photographs of the open motors exist. There is no mechanism there for compressed air to act upon. In fact the people that accused Keely of fraud at the time were in possession of his machines but at no stage showed the alleged drive mechanism like a piston or an air turbine that they claimed was there.

Keely's machines as well as his voluminous writings and manuscripts disappeared after Keely's death never to be seen again.

No, Stefan, after over 30 years of research I am convinced we are dealing here with a suppression of technology and not with a fraudulent Keely.

Keely describes sonoluminescence, a phenomenon that was only re-discovered recently and has scientists puzzled. Keely also held that there were enormous energies locked up in the "corpuscular embrace of matter" long before it became possible to split the atom. It was this statement more than anything that discredited him with the scientists of his time. He claimed to have split the atom with resonance alone and not with "corpuscular bombardment" which he had considered but rejected as too crude. He had many explosions in his workshop that were reported in the press with far more damage than could be attributed to compressed air.

I could go on for hours, but if you are interested have a look at my website where I go into detail on many aspects of Keely's work.

http://keelytech.com

Hans von Lieven

When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

premako

Hi Hans,

Is it possible to give me one single measure of something  in the requested picture so I can make it as a direct view.

Thank you

Goran

hansvonlieven

G'day premako,

There is nothing in the photographs I have that makes an accurate measurement possible. The liberator sphere was I think 4 inches in internal diameter, the scale ring on the bottom is an identical twin to the one I have been playing with, though from the photo is in much better condition. This gives at least some idea of size.

I don't think the absolute values are of importance. What I feel is the key is the relationship between the resonators. Some say it is a Fibonacci spiral, some have suggested it is a golden spiral but I am not so convinced that this is true. If we can deduce the algorithm used in the scale construction from the progression in size we are most of the way there, because it is an almost safe bet that the fundamental of the scale is a B-flat.

Sorry I cannot help any further as the machine in the picture has disappeared and direct measurements are not possible.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx