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Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

Started by hartiberlin, October 11, 2007, 05:28:41 PM

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hartiberlin

P.S. Before I am continueing with this circuit concept,
I still have to get a better frequency generator and also need
these special litz wire coils and cores.

I really want to replicate the exact setup as Ron has built it
or very simular at least.

This will need a few days.

Coming week I will continue with the tests of the other circuit:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3475.msg55362#msg55362
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

hartiberlin

Hi Ron,
another question:
What happens, when you shortout the coil L1
in the Fig: 14 - Circuit #7 Diagram ?

Will the LEDs still light up with just a ground wire and using
no signal generator ?

2. What will happen,
if you shortout the 400 pF cap in:
Fig: 26

Will you still get these high voltages, that can light neon bulbs
at the core-coils ?

At around 2 Mhz my Avramenkp plug diode also lighted up
without my ground (metal-mesh) wire, but I never got the high voltages
yet at the coils of my ferrite transformer.

Probably I could have got them only around 10 to 20 Mhz.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

amigo

Quote from: hartiberlin on October 28, 2007, 03:02:46 PM
P.S. Before I am continueing with this circuit concept,
I still have to get a better frequency generator and also need
these special litz wire coils and cores.

I really want to replicate the exact setup as Ron has built it
or very simular at least.

This will need a few days.

Here's how I started. I opened my closet and found an old alarm clock with a radio. Upon closer inspection it had a similar core so I pulled it out. All in all it took me 5 mins to find a core. :)

Surely you must have an old alarm clock or an old radio or a garage sale over the weekend or some place with surplus items that sells stuff cheap ($1-$5) where you could pick one up. I know I was way too anxious to get this on the go because it was so impressive that I could not have possibly waited for eBay purchase and delivery. :D

amigo

@RStiffler

Quote from: RStiffler on October 28, 2007, 02:51:43 PM
You can use sine or square wave as the driving signal, sine does not produce the same number (less) resonant points as the square wave. In some coils if you use sine you may never obtain the high voltage as indicated by the neon.

Duh. Let me smack myself behind my neck since there's no one around to do it for me :)

I kept using Sine waves and wondering why my effects are so diminutive or why I do not see several peak resonant points. I am going to mod my signal generator to output square wave and see what happens next.

Would saw tooth waves work better perhaps, something like slow rise, sharp drop?

Quote from: RStiffler on October 28, 2007, 02:51:43 PM
What Stefan has is very similar to what is called a Bucking Driver for LEDS where the inductance aids in powering the LEDS when the field collapses from the signal gen. as it moves through a complete cycle. If you look under LED Drivers on the internet and look at the bucking systems it may help in understand. A Red LED for example can put out a dim light if a person stands insulated and touches one end to a large mass. In this case it is being excited by ambient 60hz or 50hz.

When you say Bucking Driver, do you mean those Joule Thief kind of circuits, here's my "Bedinified" version of it:

DrStiffler

Quote from: hartiberlin on October 28, 2007, 03:12:26 PM
Hi Ron,
another question:
What happens, when you shortout the coil L1
in the Fig: 14 - Circuit #7 Diagram ?

Will the LEDs still light up with just a ground wire and using
no signal generator ?

2. What will happen,
if you shortout the 400 pF cap in:
Fig: 26

Will you still get these high voltages, that can light neon bulbs
at the core-coils ?

At around 2 Mhz my Avramenkp plug diode also lighted up
without my ground (metal-mesh) wire, but I never got the high voltages
yet at the coils of my ferrite transformer.

Probably I could have got them only around 10 to 20 Mhz.

>What happens, when you shortout the coil L1
>in the Fig: 14 - Circuit #7 Diagram ?

One side stops operation.

>Will the LEDs still light up with just a ground wire and using
>no signal generator ?

Which circuit? What Diagram?

>2. What will happen,
>if you shortout the 400 pF cap in:
>Fig: 26

The LED is a bit dimmer. The cap is not forming a series resonant tank.

>Will you still get these high voltages, that can light neon bulbs
>at the core-coils ?

If you are at the correct frequency. I explain fully that you can get a LED to light at maybe three freqs. with no HV and only one gives the HV.
All things are possible but some are impractical.