Rodin Theory & Coils

[c0mster]

No I'm not being silly. http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/ma/mattel-fisher-price-brilliant-basics-rock-a-stack.jpg

[Rosphere]

No I'm not being silly. http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/ma/mattel-fisher-price-brilliant-basics-rock-a-stack.jpg

I may have some of those toy rings buried somewhere in the garage.  You can probably get some cheap from a resale shop.

The largest blue toy ring looks about the size and color of the one that Rodin's engineer used.  (The man in the videos said, "I did not make this coil... I am not the electrical engineer... I am the presenter...")

There were larger and smaller sizes available where I had purchased my foam ring.  I selected the ten inch size because it looked like the inside hole would be just large enough to slip my standard half-pound spool-o-mag-wire through, without having first to transfer a measure of wire onto a bobbin of sorts, as would be required with a smaller ring.

I just got home from work.  I am too tired now to trust my measuring and winding.  I will do it tomorrow.  Besides, it looks like I am on my own with the wire size selection.  Because my ring is larger than what we have seen to date, I can probably use a larger gauge wire--say, 24 AWG perhaps?

You know, 2+4 = 6.  So, using 24 AWG wire is like using 6 AWG wire, but only if you chase away enough cats.  And trying to start your car using 24 AWG wire should chase them all away.   

[c0mster]

Ya I should have gave my 2 cents on the wire size sorry , 30g maybe, it kind of looks like 30g or maybe a bit thicker at 28g, I guess with 30g you would get a higher resistance and stronger field but 24 would allow some amps to be hammered in. Glad to see your starting on the coil, keep us posted. I wish I had 8 hands to do more but then I would have 3 times more chances to get into trouble.    

C

[acerzw]

@c0mster

Nice project... if everyone who builds posts pictures etc, I will link to each build post from the index...

@Rosphere

IMHO it is always best to go for what the little kid in you wants! It usually views the universe in a simplistic way without all of the artificial rules that adults create, it is your creative intuition, give the little fella a chance and go with the AWG 22... (remember I am not an engineer, so I tend to go for things for reasons like those above, rather than conventional reasons, because those working with conventional methodology limit themselves in this way... taking oneself too seriously is a sure way to stagnation of the soul and the death of creativity! Children are naturally creative, Scientists tend to strangle theirs...)

I will find an example of Rodin maths and a problem that it solves which conventional maths cannot... will take a while to find and will post on it at a later time...

@all

I am going to examine the basic power tap idea for the vortex, and get into research on the subject... I have a suspicion that JNaudins implementation of the vortex power tap may have been doubly flawed, first because it used a ferrite rod (and thus suffers from magnetic saturation), but also because that the basic design was based on an incorrect assumption about the vortex... just a suspicion, so will post more if I think it is valid...

It occurs to me while I am writing this that the central vortex power take off rod, might give off longitudinal waves that could be tapped into by winding a simple coil of wire around the bottom of the rod,  just far enough down it to be outside of the field... perhaps even one on other end, or a continuous one along the entire length of the rod? What do you think?

In general, it is going to take some time to formulate and understand how the application of Rodin's patterns relate to each specific element of the coil... he has done a lot of the work for us but I am sure there is an awful lot more to be learnt which will guide the way.

I can see that a good start is being made on building and experimenting 

Acerzw

[ahchoooo]

Ya I should have gave my 2 cents on the wire size sorry , 30g maybe, it kind of looks like 30g or maybe a bit thicker at 28g, I guess with 30g you would get a higher resistance and stronger field but 24 would allow some amps to be hammered in. Glad to see your starting on the coil, keep us posted. I wish I had 8 hands to do more but then I would have 3 times more chances to get into trouble.    

C

I think the coil has only the number of turns indicated in his drawing. He also recommended to wrap the toroid with a flat cable instead of a wire.

Ahchoooo