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Single Wire Tests

Started by duff, October 31, 2007, 03:42:00 AM

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CodeWebs

#200
February 06, 2008, 10:47:04 AM
Relating to the frequencies SM specifically mentions, is it just a coincidence that the output is stated to contain a frequency of approximately 5kHz and the input frequencies are very close to 7 times and 49 times that (5kHz * 7 = 35kHz, 35kHz * 7 = 245kHz)? Also on a side note I was digging around and found a few pieces of information which stood out to me.


"Hedgehog

Hedgehog transformers are occasionally encountered in homemade 1920s radios. They are homemade audio interstage coupling transformers.

Enamelled copper wire is wound round the central half of the length of a bundle of insulated iron wire (eg florists' wire), to make the windings. The ends of the iron wires are then bent around the electrical winding to complete the magnetic circuit, and the whole is wrapped with tape or string to hold it together.

These were sometimes used when the cost of a ready made transformer could not be justified. Inductance tends to be on the low side, with consequent loss of bass. With the speakers of the day this was no bad thing."

relating to:

"'Interstage' and coupling transformers

A use for interstage transformers is in the case of push-pull amplifiers where an inverted signal is required. Here two secondary windings wired in opposite polarities may be used to drive the output devices. These phase splitting transformers are not much used today."

and finally to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superheterodyne_receiver

I'm sorry if this isn't of much use and you can ignore this post in that case, but it just seems to relate to a great deal of what SM said.

Jdo300

#201
February 09, 2008, 06:15:08 AM
Hello All,

In my recent experiments lately, I have had to find a quick and easy way to wind spiral pancake coils. They work great as pickup and detector coils to measure magnetic effects in the TPU. Below I wrote up a how-to showing how to quickly ans simply wind really nice pancake coils for use in experiments. Please let me know what you think.

Enjoy!
Jason O

c0mster

#202
February 09, 2008, 01:10:26 PM
OL

Bruce_TPU

#203
February 09, 2008, 05:53:37 PM
Quote from: c0mster on February 09, 2008, 01:10:26 PM
About the Sim
It is 2 square wave generators, but as you can see they have diodes so a positive pulse is going into each side of a 1 to 1 transformer opposite. As well each side of the transformer is set up as a tank ctc. The thing (OSC2)  hooked to the second transformer is an oscilloscope. I?ll attach a pic of the true reading on of one of the tank ctc on one side of the  transformer. I have completed the 2 drivers and ran my first test yesterday, it looks like the logic of the sim may be correct. I need to do some tuning of my coils to get the 2 waves to crash into each other properly. Notice in the pic how after the kick the amplitude rises. Also there is little current being used due to the tank. I?ll post more when I fine tune the tanks better. I replaced the oscilloscope with a ear piece and did some tweaking, what I herd was a beat frequency , an almost spinning sound, and at one point white noise. I only use batteries no mains connection 2 independent batteries, my scope runs on batteries. The drivers are 555 with mosfet. Also a pic of 1 driver. Consider transformer 2 pri as a single wire with crashing oscillations at each end.
C       


Awesome start cOmster.  I can't wait to see the next results.

The imagination starts to run wild when I think of three frequencies, in the same wire heading for each other!   ;D  Not to jump down the road too much...

@ All
Picture the making of "Three Sisters", each heading in opposing directions, slamming into each other.  It would make for one "Big Bertha" of a wave, IMHO.

Great work cOm,

Bruce

1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

BEP

#204
February 09, 2008, 09:28:04 PM
May I suggest a three phase WYE transformer as the 'single wire' and three feeders instead of two?

Best to complete what you had in-mind first though.

I can tell you what happens when you close a bus-tie breaker on two 3-phase generators that have opposite rotation. It is not a pretty story.

On the two signal approach from what I've seen one of two things will happen. More volts and almost no amps but there will be a magnetic field stronger than expected -or- More volts and normal amps out at either end but almost no magnetic field.
At this point I am thinking the difference is in the rotation but I never confirmed it as all I wanted was the latter.

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