Meyer's WFC concept analysed

[renaud67]

Hello Farrah Day,
go there http://www.panaceauniversity.org/
and check D9.pdf and D14.pdf files
good "luck"

[Farrah Day]

Thanks R67

Yes, good, thats the one I have. It's the pdf.14 cct that I'm building. Just wanted to make sure that I had the latest circuit design and was not looking at an earlier flawed version.

Farrah Day

[HeairBear]

Yes, you are correct. The fundamental of Stan"s process was the PWM and his invention or copy of Puharich's, which he references in his patents, evolved as he learned. Instead of the alternator he used a step-up transformer. Instead of a resistive cathode, he used chokes. The EEC also came later to consume the free electrons coming not from the incoming current but the extra ones produced from each molecule that disassociates. Earlier on, he demonstrates in his home buggy video we discussed earlier, how to use the gasses in an automobile without having to change the timing. He basically uses an EGR valve, but it's ingenious.

Here is a simple test any one can do. you will need 2 or 3 AA batteries, two plates or tubes (the smaller the better), and 1 or 2 multimeters. Without having the plates in the water, connect the positive and negative wires to the plates and battery. now connect a meter to the circuit before you put the plates into the water and measure for a voltage drop when you drop the plates in the water. With a little dinkin around you will see a point where there is no voltage drop, very, very lttle current if not any at all, and a small production of gas. As soon as the current starts to flow, the voltage starts to drop, and that is what we are trying to avoid.

Let's look at how voltage drops work a bit more closely. With just a simple battery and a volt meter we can measure the voltage before and after the resistor or any load really. The voltage will be as high as the incoming voltage on one side of the load and less on the other side. If we don't have any current, we wont have an oxide layer and we want it to work regardless of having to condition the plates. If we make the cathode much more resistive than the water and anode before it. The voltage will remain higher before the resistance and the voltage drop after the resistance.

outta time, gotta go....

Cheers!

[keithturtle]

Yo, Farrah Day;

The whole KOH thang is fer comparison.   I wanna run one cell in conventional Faraday electrolysis, and the matching mate in Meyer, Lawton, Boyce... whatever non-conventional HHO extraction scheme-du jour...

That way I be comparin' apples to apples.

Side by side, meter to meter... show it works.

Ain't done it yet...

Turtle

[Farrah Day]

Sounds good to me KT.

I think that's exactly what's called for. Not just blind experimenting, but controlled experiments in order, as you say, to compare 'like to like' under different power applications. Hope I'll be able to add a little hands-on experience soon.

Just waiting on my acrylic tube for my cell body now.  Keep us posted on results.

HairBear, regarding your simple little experiment. You have aroused my curiosity. I'll give it a try later.

This however, is what logic tells me will - or should - happen.

OK, straight dc from a battery connected to two ss plates that I then lower into a glass of tap water.  Voltage across plates is the same as voltage of battery before I lower the plates into water as I effectively have an open circuit. On touching the water, my open circuit now becomes a resistive circuit and current will start to flow. The more I lower the electrodes into the water, the less resistance between the plates and so the more current flows and conversely the voltage will drop in direct proportion to this current flow. Hence, the higher I lift the electrodes out of the water the greater resistance I create between the plates, the higher the voltage goes. That is what I expect to happen.  Will try it today.

However, I'm unfamiliar with the scientific term 'dinkin around'... is it Meyer jargon?!?

Farrah Day