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Self Running Micro TPU, with closed loop.

Started by EMdevices, November 12, 2007, 11:49:58 PM

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Bruce_TPU

Hello all,

I have rewound my mini toroid with 20 gauge magnet wire.  30 turns, bifilar, and 10 turns trigger.  Length of time the LED blinked, 4 minutes 36 seconds.  Repeated this three times, and each time almost exactly 4min 30 sec.

I have another idea, and I am about to test is.  Will post idea and results as well as a pic in a few minutes. 

Cheers,
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

hoptoad

Quote from: hansvonlieven on November 17, 2007, 04:26:04 PM
Quote from: duff on November 17, 2007, 01:28:16 PM

When mine is running off the cap then the osc starts at 6.9Hz and slowly floats upward for 14 minutes and ending at 7.32 Hz.


-Duff



Fascinating, 7.32 Hz   SCHUMANN RESONANCE !!!!

Hans von Lieven

Yeh KneeDeep, I noticed that one too. As always Hans, you've got a great way of zooming in on the "coincidentals".!
I was wondering if anybody might stumble across a self tuning circuit running synchronistically with the earth's natural heatbeat.
Duff, your measurements may have revealed more than you realize. Good on ya, .... KneeDeep........

Oh yeh, Hans, speaking of resonance, I haven't had much time to check out your Keely stuff lately.
I hope you're progressing in a manner you'd like to. Interesting stuff. - Not quite my field so I get a little out of depth......KneeDeep.... when I read some of postings on the Keely forums.

Cheers all from the Toad who Hops

Bruce_TPU

Well,

The best time tonight, no power, LED flashing is 4min 45 sec.  I tried a wrap around the circumference in different configuration, but no go.  I sure would like to get to that 2.5 hours, EM!   ;)

I will be attempting the use of many different capacitors and see if there is any difference.  If I beat my 4min 45 second on time, I'll let you know.

Cheers,
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

EMdevices

Hi Guys, 

I hope you are having fun playing with electronics and trying to duplicate this circuit. 
Nice work duff, I see you've got it working.   Very interesting observation that it drifts up to 7.3 Hz, the Schumann Resonance.


I see I might have confused people with the number of turns, but BEP is right on.    The 30 turn coil was formed from 2 of the windings on the ferrite which each had 15 turns.  That's all.    Why did I do that?   Just because I wanted more turns so I hooked two coils in SERIES.

The center tap on the top coil was from another project so ignore it, it's not being used.

Bruce, If you want to get a long running time, use a high resistor value and capacitor.  In my latest results, I used 1 Mega ohm and played around with a 1.5 uF,  3.3 uF,   a 10 uF and 22 uF capacitor.  I think the 22 uF gave the longest run time, but the others were impressive too.   Think about it,  with each pulse some energy is lost, even though it's being recycled.   So if you space the pulses apart longer, it lasts longer, at least that's how I think about it.   It's that RC time constant concept.

I'll make another photo from the top, and I'll remove that middle tap on the trigger coil.

EM

P.S.  Added photo.  Notice I removed the center tap on the TOP coil (trigger coil) since it served no function, and also I removed the 400 ohm resistor by the large cap (since I'm convinced now it won't run away  LOL  )  but I left the diode on the board, since it's frail and I don't want to break the leads off.   Basicaly, some of you have the circuit running, and that's all there is to it.

Paul-R

Quote from: EMdevices on November 17, 2007, 10:28:32 PM
Hi Guys, 
I hope you are having fun playing with electronics and trying to duplicate....
EMdevices, I think that it is time for you to give your discovery a name.
Paul.