Muller Dynamo

[nul-points]

I've seen the Neogen video before and it's impressive no matter how many times I look at it, but I figured it was just a beautiful build that is under unity. There's plenty enough information on that video to build one like it. I'm not sure what Rom hit on that wasn't covered in Neogen build. Maybe they got to complicated. I sure wish them luck. I'd love to see that thing work.
John H (DadHav)

John

you may be interested to see this Muller Gen replication - iirc claimed Cop is around 1.7 - some serious engineering has gone into this build!

  link --> http://home.mchsi.com/~actt2/index.html

photo of R. Classen's build below


[Edit: PS  please see my reply, above, to Tudi's comments about your video example re: motor running from cap, thanks]

cheers
np

http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

[xenomorphlabs]

3. we may substitute the 0.125 X 7 stranded wire with a single wire of diameter 0.125 X sqrt(7) = 0.33 (to obtain the same resistance) and see if we can get similar pickup voltages with whatever load we wish to put on.

lanenal

According to Romero, the pickup voltage does increase when using stranded wire, he has pointed out that on the first pages of this thread , when being asked why he decided to use stranded wire at all.
But it cannot hurt to try it out yourself.

His quote:

Regarding the stranded wire:
Some time ago in a Bedini project I have built 2 identical coils but one with normal wire and another with stranded wire.I was using this coils to collect the power from the rotor powered with a Bedini standard circuit.Same core same wire diameter, all the same...
The results at that time(no load):   normal wire output was 9.2 volts
                                                stranded wire output was 12.3
since then I have always used stranded for most of my coils
it is easy to do the same experiment like me, actually it would be nice if someone else will confirm this.
I always try everything myself, I don't take all info I found as granted.
If I was wrong I would like someone to tell me.

i have to add that he might have had a calculation error creep up on him doing that particular experiment, as in his mind the total diameter of 7 strands of 0.125mm amounts to 0.8mm (see his quote) instead of 0.375mm (http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.msg284903#msg284903)

His words:

After looking at the website I bought the wires I realised that is 7 X 0.125MM SOLDERABLE STRAND EN.Cu that makes a bit more than 0.8 mm, all other info is OK.

So if he did compare 7 stranded of 0.125mm wire to a single strand of 0.8mm he has of course seen a higher voltage on the stranded wire than if he had used a single 0.375mm strand to compare to.

[DadHav]

Lidmotor is a very good experimenter and replicator.  His videos are clear and well explained.  Give him a little time and he will get this I am sure.  He is very innovative and resourceful too.

As my old patent attorney once told me, once you disclose your idea to the general public, the idea is no longer patentable.  Removing videos and posts does not "un-ring the bell".  This does not mean he, or whomever buys it, can not obtain a patent but, it will be ruled null and void at first challenge due to the public disclosure.

Bill

This technology is in such an early stage, there will be plenty of room for design patents. (MHO) Let me ask this question? Who will grant patent other than design when no one knows why the machine is over unity. I could have missed something but if I did, please mention what event is taking place that makes the device over unity? Is there something other than radiant energy, because there isn't any radiant in the generator circuit right? I think we need a theory as to why the machine works. Like I said maybe it's as obvious as the PDF file that I didn't see at the beginning of the thread, but if I missed something let me know.
John H

[Tudi]

thanks null-points, feel really stupid for not observing those. You seem to be perfectly right about the energy gain / draw regarding the CAP. Which makes me think, the caps play a huge role in setup. In some way most of the "new" devices use a spark gap, which is just a capacitor that breaks under the load( converted into a resistance ? )

Regarding coils, i think i was mistaking there also. Reviewed the drawings and i seen in the video that coil 1 is connected in series with coils 2, but in the PDF they are in paralel. Connecting them in series would have flatten the output signal more instead of a half way cut AC ? or maybe not give any output at all without the diode bridge ? I wish i could afford to experiment without opening my mouth ( 12 hours workslave in IT )

PS : regarding privacy. That is a myth to fool morrons. When it's about national security, there is no privacy, your phone is listened and recorded, your internet routing is recorded and can be backtraced. Your publicly available encryption software by law can be broken if required....Just as there is no 101% antivirus software
ps2: GPU license ? Nothing can kill the masses. Laws are made based on common "demand". We just need to want something enough. And something like this is what we ALL want

[lanenal]

According to Romero, the pickup voltage does increase when using stranded wire, he has pointed out that on the first pages of this thread , when being asked why he decided to use stranded wire at all.
But it cannot hurt to try it out yourself.

You are correct. Thanks for pointing this out. Now I read it more carefully. He did it without load (so no current and therefore resistance does not matter) and got different voltages...very strange indeed.

lanenal