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The inventions of Captain Hans Coler

Started by neptune, January 31, 2008, 01:48:38 PM

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Steven Dufresne

@Koen1,
Thanks for pointing out "space charges" in vacuum tubes. That's the nice thing about these discussions with people with difference backgrounds, especially since Hans Coler lived back when vacuum tubes were more predominant than they are today. I am glad to see that there was still some question as to where the space charge came from.

Regarding the correlation between the testatika's magnet circuit and Hans Coler's Stromzeuger, I just drew up this diagram (about time, since I've been mentioning it in places for some time now.) For future reference, I also added a page about it at:
http://rimstar.org/sdenergy/testa/testatika_and_hans_coler.htm
but the page doesn't add any details.

Oh... and I noticed you spell is Stromerzeuger and not Stromzeuger. Is there any reason for that? My German is limited.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org
He who smiles at lofty schemes, stems the tied of broken dreams. - Roger Hodgson

hansvonlieven

The correct word is Stromerzeuger from Strom (literally stream or flow) commonly used to describe electricity and erzeugen meaning to create.

So the translation would be "electricity creator".

The word zeugen has multiple meanings ie. to witness or the creation of offspring by the male. The word Stromzeuger would imply a male creating electricity with his dick, something I don't think Coler had in mind. ;D ;D ;D

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

Steven Dufresne

Quote from: hansvonlieven on January 14, 2009, 02:07:26 PM
The word zeugen has multiple meanings ie. to witness or the creation of offspring by the male. The word Stromzeuger would imply a male creating electricity with his dick, something I don't think Coler had in mind. ;D ;D ;D

;D ;D ;D Thanks Hans.
So if I make a replica of the Stromerzeuger producing electricity then my father would be a Stromzeuger, in a way...  ;D
Sorry, couldn't resist. Luckily you pointed this out in time for me to modify my diagram.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org
He who smiles at lofty schemes, stems the tied of broken dreams. - Roger Hodgson

Koen1

Lol :D yeah thanks Hans. I was going to compare it to
the difference between "create" and "procreate" or
between "current spring" and "current offspring" or something,
but your explanation is very clear. :)
Not surprising, you're a native speaker, I'm just a neighbour. ;)

@Steven: Thanks for that picture, now I see what you meant.
It does seem like certain elements of the two devices are
somewhat similar, indeed.
If we just look at the Coler plates and inductive couplings,
and compare them to the Testatika, there seem to be several
comparable elements although they do appear to be connected
differently.
The Coler Stromerzeurger setup has two capacitive elements,
the two sets of plates, which could in the Testatika be represented
by the two "leyden jar" capacitor cans. (They're not really leyden
jars but what the hey) Colers plates clearly have a large air contact surface,
and use air as dielectric. The Testatika "can caps" as far as I have
seen pics and read about them also have a large air contact surface
(a perforated metal or even mesh "secondary plate") and also use
mostly air for dielectric.
The Testatika horseshoe magnet and dielectric stack elements would
at first glance seem to be somewhat similar in that they combine a
most likely iron permanent magnet with inductively fed oscillations,
and a form of capacitor. The placement of the parts in regard to
the magnetic field geometry is different, though. The Coler plates
do not appear to be placed inside the magnetic field of his magnets
like the Testatika stack is.
But the idea that a permanent magnet is used with a coil wrapped around it
and current allowed to run through the magnet, that seems to be similar.
And this still makes me think that there is a sort of magnetic "diode"
effect happening in both of these magnet-couplings. As I imagine it,
the magnets are used as "transformer" (or at least "inductor") cores
with a bias due to their own magnetisation, which allows current to
flow in one direction more easily than in the other simply because
in the one direction the flux generated by the coil is aligned with the
pm's flux, while in the other direction the coil flux is opposed to that
of the magnet.
And then of course there are the interesting results of spark experiments
that showed that sparks in air seem to be able to "jump" a larger gap
than they normally can, if the spark is allowed to "jump" from one
conductive permanent magnet to another, but only from the N pole
of the one to the S pole of the other. (Or was it the other way around?
Well, in any case, in the one direction the sparks can jump a larger
gap than they should be able to, and in the other direction they jump
a smaller gap. Clearly a magnetic field has an effect on how easily
electric charge can jump a spark gap, while the magnetic and electric
fields run parallel to eachother. Yes, I know, this is not in any of the
books, according to the books there is only a perpendicular relationship
between the A and the B field... But then again, according to those
same books, neither the Stromerzeuger nor the Testatika should
be possible. ;) And I've seen the experiments that show the increased
gap discharge... )
How exactly such a "diode effect" (I'll just keep calling it that untill someone
comes up with a better term) could produce increased output I'm not
entirely sure about yet, but it would seem that this effect occurs in both devices.

Another interesting thing which may be used here, although admittedly it
seems more clearly related to the Testatika than to the Stromerzeuger,
is something quite typical of old Leyden jar capacitors: they can store
negative charge (electrons) only on their inner "plate", if stored on the
outer "plate" the charge dissipates. However, positive charge is consistently
stored on the outer "plate". Nothing really spectacular, you'd think,
since we all know that light impacting a conductor tends to charge
the conductor positively. (Tesla made quite a fuss about this for a little while.)
But there's some old experiments which remarkably enough seem to
have never found their way into the books, which use a Leyden jar to
increase circuit efficiency to 100% and over, if the old reports are correct.
I couldn't find the extensive report I've read on the experiments right now,
but here's a link to a very brief description of the same: http://www.rexresearch.com/yablotch/yablotch.htm
Mind you, in the extensive report I read quite a while ago clear info
was given regarding the voltages and efficiencies measured by expert
witnesses of the day.

And of course we all know we can make an "electron pump" as long as we have
a couple of diodes, a capacitor, and a pulsating or alternating source of charge.

I think both the Stromerzeuger and Testatika use a combination of these effects
to build and maintain a high static charge and to have that oscillate to operate
a form of "electron pump", while adding as many efficiency increasing tricks
as possible. And both are most likely designed to operate in a certain specific
range of harmonically resonant oscillations, which helps in building the
charge levels and maintaining operation.

so much for some of my thoughts there. :)

Regards,
Koen

Steven Dufresne

Quote from: Koen1 on January 15, 2009, 08:11:44 AM
@Steven: Thanks for that picture, now I see what you meant.
It does seem like certain elements of the two devices are
somewhat similar, indeed.
If we just look at the Coler plates and inductive couplings,
and compare them to the Testatika, there seem to be several
comparable elements although they do appear to be connected
differently.
Hmmm... My diagram was aiming to point out that they are connected the same. Perhaps the right side of the diagram showing the wiring of the testatika wasn't visible? You have to scroll the diagram horizontally to see it. You can also turn off the overunity.com advertising bars on the left and right by going up the the menubar and clicking minus, '-', signs just to the right of the menubar. You should be able to see most, if not all of the diagram. In the testatika drawing on the right, I've labelled the parts M1... M4, F1, P1, F2, P2 to make it easier to compare to the parts in the Stromerzeuger that are labelled the same.

From experiment, I know that the plates in between the horseshoe magnet legs will act as antennas if there is any high voltage fluctuation nearby. There could be hidden connections that to the plates that do it directly but I don't like to speculate about hidden connections much. These plates would then induce this into the coiled wires. So these plates could take the place of the two coils in the Stromerzzeuger. They would induce the current flow in the wires.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org
He who smiles at lofty schemes, stems the tied of broken dreams. - Roger Hodgson