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Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet

Started by gotoluc, February 17, 2008, 12:27:13 AM

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Kator01

Hello Koen1,

here ist the google-link of Prof. Ehrenhafts Life. He was a scientist living in Vienna ( Austria ) starting his work before World War II. He had to emigrate to USA during the war and returned to Austria. His work on magents causing water to dissociate is different to your intention. The link I add here is page 99 of the book ( unfortunately written in german language ) where you see this setup which is still a little unclear to me, but on thing is important : The magnet dissolved in the region of water-contact, it was used up. Very remakable experiment.

http://books.google.com/books?id=W8GVSqSvSTYC&pg=PA103&hl=de&sig=6cLHW0hC6eu7LxhthDcYGzct54w#PPA99,M2

Kator01

Koen1

Yes, that's the guy! :D

Thanks for that link Kator01! :)

aether22

Hmmm, tried the experiment, the original one but couldn't see any effect.

I found that the voltage raised depending on how much current was passing through the transformer primary.
If I did it very fast not much current got to flow (due to the mere 12v potential against the coils impedance, mostly inductive as the resistance was very low) and so there was less of a magnetic field to collapse.

If I did it slower up to 7A would flow and would result in a bigger spark and larger voltage increase in the cap.

It didn't seem effected much by adding the neo other than possibly diminished.

I can try other transformers and spark gaps but this duration issue needs to be answered, if the contact is longer with the magnet (possibly by the magnetic field holding the wire to it longer) then more current will be flowing which means a greater magnetic field which means more energy will be discharged into the cap as the field collapses.

I sure hope that this isn't the case as I am hoping for an aetheric cause to the effect but currently it seems very likely.
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

aether22

I tried the autoignition coil test, the result is that it is far far easier getting an arc (or at greater gaps only possible) with the magnet.

But sadly it seemed mostly boringly conventional, Dave mentioned that the conduction seemingly had to be through the magnet to get the effect, but I found I can get arc's with the wire not in the circuit but merely near two wires being momentarily contacted, it looks very much like it is just a case of the magnet blowing the arc out which leads to a swifter collapse and hence a greater emf.

The autoignition coil must have had a lower inductance because the length of time the coil was shorted for seemed unimportant.

I can make a video of all of this if anyone wants to see it.

Incidentally I can see the same criticism being leveled at most/all the results JLN found with the Vallee stuff if it includes spark gaps. (note: not all of his stuff did though)

Now Stefan's negative current sounds interesting, but I can't see me really investigating Newman much.
Clearly spark gaps can do very interesting things but based on what I have found so far this isn't. (maybe Dave and Luc have found some thing not explained by these issues, incidentally I can't get Luc's bouncing wire effect, it just welds it's self to the magnet on contact)

BTW Luc did you find that it made any difference if the magnet was on the negative or positive side of the circuit? I had the magnet on the negative side as your diagram shows.
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

gotoluc

Quote from: aether22 on June 25, 2008, 11:36:04 PM
incidentally I can't get Luc's bouncing wire effect, it just welds it's self to the magnet on contact)

BTW Luc did you find that it made any difference if the magnet was on the negative or positive side of the circuit? I had the magnet on the negative side as your diagram shows.

Hi aether22,  if you never got the wire to self pulse on the magnet then you have not seen anyting because this whole effect is based on that. You need to pulse the positive side of the DC and if the wire sticks to the magnet then flip the magnet around or pulse the other side. Also, don't pulse the top or bottom of the magnet pulse in the center between the two poles.

Try that and let me know.

Luc