Tri-Force Magnets - Finally shown to be OU?

[CLaNZeR]

Hi all;

In Clanzers inclined ramp video we see an axle with weight W being pulled up an incline by
an interaction with a magnetic field.

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Sorry, for the length of this post and I would now be glad to answer any questions about it.

MarkSCoffman

HI Mark

Thanks for that.

I will have to re-read a few times to take it in, but thanks for the input.
Will let you know if my brain connects with what you describe.

Cheers

Sean.

[Rusty_Springs]

Hi Mark
I just wanted to say I found that very interesting.
Take Care Mark
Graham

[Yadaraf]

CLaNZeR,

I think one thing that is affecting wind down time is the flux in the rotor-stator connecting ball. 

In some of your configurations there is a strong N-N<->S-S-S-S setup, but in others you have a weaker N-S<->S-S-S-S setup.  The friction on the ball is different in each case.

Hi Yada

All the long Wind Down times were done with the NS-NS-NS-NS on the middle bars, top and bottom are either all North or all South.

The pulse you see in the first video and indeed the original is I suspect the NN-SN-SS-NS

Here is a video to show the difference

Hi-res
http://www.overunity.org.uk/CLaNZeRSFairFieldReplication8.wmv

Youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E1Eg04OlUQ

If the Original Video poster would show us a longer video than 30 seconds then I would be excited.

What I am excited about is that something else is happening here with the NS-NS-NS-NS config and the changing of the top magnet arrangement.
This is the closest to SV(Lag) interaction between the Rotor and the top Stator that I have seen and might even be tempted to get the Tacho out LOL

Cheers

Sean.

Hey CLaNZeR,

Great job, mate.  The first pattern of NN-SN-SS-NS definitely creates a strong NS across the diagonal and enables the pulsing to occur.

I'm glad the long hang time of the second pattern looks interesting to you.  It's not something I would have expected.  Interesting 

Cheers

Yada..
.

[sm0ky2]

I was looking again at @CLaNZeR's video. The device seems to slow down. Was it spun initially by hand or the spinning started by simply adjusting the wings as in @smOky2's case? The wind down seems peculiar, though, much longer than expected. Mine comes to a stop earlier and differently when set in motion by hand but that may be just because the conditions of my experiment are different.

@OMNI  -  look man, please dont jump at me with your preconcieved notions of magnetic theory.
   
  im going to try to explain this to you very simply.

when you have the magnets in attraction the spheres are under a lot of "magnetic friction" from the balls pulling towards one another.

you must connect the octehedral to the Tri-Force in REPULSION.

This creates a (almost) frictionless junction allowing it to spin freely,

once you see what this actually is, its not that impressive from a "free energy" standpoint.
it IS however quite fascinating from the point of tiny changes on the magnetic level sending it into a chaotic spin.
i say chaotic because it does not decrease steady, it oscillates from slow, to not so slow, then to a bit slower.
if that makes any sense.

[sm0ky2]

CLaNZeR,

I think one thing that is affecting wind down time is the flux in the rotor-stator connecting ball. 

In some of your configurations there is a strong N-N<->S-S-S-S setup, but in others you have a weaker N-S<->S-S-S-S setup.  The friction on the ball is different in each case.

Hi Yada

All the long Wind Down times were done with the NS-NS-NS-NS on the middle bars, top and bottom are either all North or all South.

The pulse you see in the first video and indeed the original is I suspect the NN-SN-SS-NS

Here is a video to show the difference

Hi-res
http://www.overunity.org.uk/CLaNZeRSFairFieldReplication8.wmv

Youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E1Eg04OlUQ

If the Original Video poster would show us a longer video than 30 seconds then I would be excited.

What I am excited about is that something else is happening here with the NS-NS-NS-NS config and the changing of the top magnet arrangement.
This is the closest to SV(Lag) interaction between the Rotor and the top Stator that I have seen and might even be tempted to get the Tacho out LOL

Cheers

Sean.

Hey CLaNZeR,

Great job, mate.  The first pattern of NN-SN-SS-NS definitely creates a strong NS across the diagonal and enables the pulsing to occur.

I'm glad the long hang time of the second pattern looks interesting to you.  It's not something I would have expected.  Interesting 

Cheers

Yada..
.

That was my experience as well. i prefer the long wind-down version myself.
the pulses however - are more like what we see in the original video. - which was claimed to have run for 10 minutes before stopping.

at best i've seen it go for 4 mins, and the last 45 secs or so it goes reeeaaaalll slow.