Tri-Force Magnets - Finally shown to be OU?

[Rusty_Springs]

Hi All
I added one more movie with the same setup as the Trigate Smot experiment showing what happens with out the second Trigate you can find the video at the file section of Erics Minato Group the name of the file is TriGateWithOutSecond.wmv.
Tanke Care all
Graham

[sm0ky2]

@ OMNI-

so where is the video of your "working" SMOT loop??

Abou the pendulum -- if its so "easy" to debunk the energydifference input/output of a free swinging pendulum, then lets see it.

De-Bunk this - show me where this energy is comming from.

What energy in the pendulum experiment? Like I said, with the stations the conditions are completely different from the conditions without stations. These two situations cannot be compared. Do you realize that?

As for the closed -B-C-A loop, I gave you a link--the link to the magnetic propagator.

with or without the stations - it requires (mhg)some  ammount of energy to lift the mass of the pendulum to height x. this is your input energy.
the pendulum swings through the gate and ends up at height y (which is greater than x) this is your output energy - if you stop the experiment at this point- you have more energy out than in.
you can then use the pendulum at this new height to perform work of energy value=
       [(mg*x) - (mg*y)] and the pendulum will end up exactly where you started to swing through the gates again, AND having had performed work.

You aren't going to dodge this one, i want an explanation.
This to me is more evidence of OU, than any SMOT device i have seen in operation.

[Omnibus]

@ OMNI-

so where is the video of your "working" SMOT loop??

Abou the pendulum -- if its so "easy" to debunk the energydifference input/output of a free swinging pendulum, then lets see it.

De-Bunk this - show me where this energy is comming from.

What energy in the pendulum experiment? Like I said, with the stations the conditions are completely different from the conditions without stations. These two situations cannot be compared. Do you realize that?

As for the closed -B-C-A loop, I gave you a link--the link to the magnetic propagator.

with or without the stations - it requires (mhg)some  ammount of energy to lift the mass of the pendulum to height x. this is your input energy.
the pendulum swings through the gate and ends up at height y (which is greater than x) this is your output energy - if you stop the experiment at this point- you have more energy out than in.
you can then use the pendulum at this new height to perform work of energy value=
       [(mg*x) - (mg*y)] and the pendulum will end up exactly where you started to swing through the gates again, AND having had performed work.

You aren't going to dodge this one, i want an explanation.
This to me is more evidence of OU, than any SMOT device i have seen in operation.

Not so. With stations the energy to lift the mass of the pendulum to the given height h differs from that energy in absence of stations. Your mistake consists in forgetting about this difference.

Accounting for this difference in the case of SMOT is straightforward. Not so here.

[Omnibus]

Please understand, I'm not saying that excess energy isn't produced in the pendulum experiment. All I'm saying is that it's more difficult to sustain a definitive conclusion.

[Rusty_Springs]

Hi All
All I want to say is I'm enjoying this site it makes for a good day waiting to see what will be said next.
Take Care All
Graham