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Tri-Force Magnets - Finally shown to be OU?

Started by couldbe, February 20, 2008, 08:45:25 AM

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Quote from: Omnibus on March 22, 2008, 01:09:37 AM
@Rusty_Springs,

The problem isn't in overcoming or not overcoming the air gap. The problem is before that, the barrier which exists before that. No matter what gate you'll make after that initial barrier, gap or no gap, it will serve no purpose, with regard to building a working pmm, if you don't solve the problem with that earlier barrier which you always ignore. That problem doesn't seem to be anywhere near solved with the tri-gate. As far as whether a pmm can be built in principle, that's another story, unconnected with the current problem (current problem is the existence of that initial barrier you tend to ignore).

Did anybody ask you? Again...nobody wants to hear what you have to say until you find another way to say it. What did you learn in Kindergarten?

Omnibus

@Rusty_Springs,

It's important for you to understand that it is not because pmm cannot be made with the gate you call "tri-force" constructing pmm isn't possible. Seems to me this is your thinking. Pmm may or may not be possible but it isn't connected with your contraption.

Of course, a discussion as to whether pmm is at all possible is quite necessary. Will save time and effort for many, to say the least. It still seems to me it is possible if the lessons learned from the SMOT are heeded, that is, that an assisting conservative field has to be somehow superimposed on the time-independent magnetic field. Thus, is isn't only as you mention--through changing magnetic fields. SMOT teaches us that there's another, revolutionary way to accomplish this.

Omnibus

Never forget, SMOT so far provides the only scientifically sound proof that CoE can be violated and that energy out of no source (out of nothing) can be produced. Everything else is speculation, hits in the dark a lot of incompetence and even outright fraud, as the recent events indicate.

Rusty_Springs

Hi Omnibus
Your right I don't beleave a pmm can be made and I wont beleave it till I see one that works and anyone can biuld.
@sm0ky2
Are you say the Bismuth will repel the iron if the iron is in a magnetic field if so then theres something we maybe able to do with that?
Take Care All
Graham

Rusty_Springs

Hi All
I havn't got the drawings I wanted to show on this computer of how Bismuth will help in one of the systems I thought of, this was overlapping magnets and iron with a iron rotor, the stators where one side overlapping north magnets and the other overlapping south magnets so as the iron rotated the iron rotor would change poles, the overlapping magnets ment it moves to the end of the magnets and the overlapping iron shield ment it moved out of the magnetic field. if I added Bismuth to this system the once its out of the magnets field and into the weaker irons field then it goin g into the Bismuths field and repels out and across to be attracted in the opposite magnetic field and changing its own magnetic field to start again, it works like an electromagnetic motor except it uses iron and bismuth to repel out and cross the airgap.
Oh heres a drawing of the horseshoe changing fields I was talking about earlier.
Take Care All
Graham