magnetic gravity wheel

[hartiberlin]

I am reposting this topic,
as it was corrupted and I restored it from the database.
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So I ask user:
mapsrg
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magnetic gravity wheel


This has potential.

A larger wheel with smaller wheels
mounted on it .

The smaller wheels are guided by fixed external
magnets into paths that unbalance the larger wheel.

12 or more, even 200 wheels,
could be mounted with only 2 being

flipped at top and bottom of rotation



lets see an animation or drawing.


thanks



see
magnetic imbalance wheel
 for another
 illustration......
The small circles,d, are
 the small mounted wheel.
The areas marked 2 are the fixed external magnets.
T, at top and

bottom of large wheel are the turning points of the smaller wheels.
The areas ,1, are magnets on the smaller wheels in repelling mode.
Direction,G, is the rotation direction.
The result of the external

magnets repelling the magnets
on the smaller wheels is the rotation of the larger wheel,
W,due to unbalance......




Closeup of zone ,
T,showing fixed external magnets,
2, repelling magnets on small wheels into new path,
P........L is the direction of rotation of the smaller wheels
mounted on the larger

wheel,
W, at the bottom of rotation of the larger wheel.

This has potential....
A larger wheel with smaller wheels mounted on it .
The smaller wheels are guided by fixed

external magnets
into paths that unbalance the larger wheel.
12 or more,even 200 wheels, could be mounted with only 2 being flipped at top and bottom of rotation

What

immediately spring to attention is that
 there is more magnetic attraction on the
 right side than on the left, because the magnetic circle is wider.
 So while there is more weight on the right,
it is

not quite as heavy because of the additional magnetic forces
 pulling it in various directions.


Are you referring to figure one?
 this illustration is of the paths
taken by the magnets mounted on the smaller wheels
as they travel around the larger wheel
as it rotates.
Basically the

total unbalance effect causing rotation.

Are you referring to figure one?
this illustration is of the paths taken by the magnets mounted on the smaller wheels <br

/>as they travel around the larger wheel
as it rotates.
Basically the total unbalance effect causing rotation.

I agree that there is an unbalace of mass on one side.
 However, I

am not convinced there is an unbalance of weight,
since part of the mass is being drawn up and to the side by magnets.
 The left side has less mass, but fewer magnets,
while the right side has

more mass and more magnets working against gravity.
 My guess is that there will be no rotation.




here is an illustration of smaller
wheels on the larger wheel,
in this case 12,
note that the shaded areas of the small wheels are mounted with magnets .






Wouldn&#039;t the gravity be equalized on both sides of the wheel?
 I mean, the gravity will not do anything at all.
Or have I misunderstood the drawings?
If gravity is the only thing to add foce to

rotate the polarity if the magnets,
 you probably do not need magnets at all,
 as gravity is the only force needed to spin the wheel.

Br.

Vidar



Gravity will only act to find balance,
your right ,
but to maintain rotation unbalance has to be maintained.
To achieve this magnetic repulsive forces are used to turn
a small wheel at the top and

bottom of rotation.
This causes the magnets mounted on the
smaller wheels to be turned further
away from the center of rotation
(at the top) or closer to the center of rotation (at the bottom) of

the larger wheel.
The fixed external magnets are more clearly seen in the
following illustration......these are with gravity the cause of rotation.







video of smaller wheel partially mounted
with ceramic magnets being repelled to turn by large ceramic magnet.
On the gravity wheel this rotation would occur at the top and bottom.



Dimensions:

Assuming the smaller wheels have a diameter of 100mm and there are twelve then
the circumference of the larger wheel would be @ 2.4M-3.6M
depending on the spacing.

A larger spacing is required if the rotation ,
top and bottom , of the smaller wheels is
to occur one after the other
and not at the same time as shown





Hi researcher,
do you mean a magnetic imballancer like this:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wcy0tedYBMg

I like the principles of continous imballancing magnetic arrangements.
You

have to work with a continous changing RND to make the magnets seeking forever the point of rest.

Have look at this principle and try to point out how it works.
Systems with more than one minima

or maxima to rest in peace have a verry long time till they rest.

Stay tuned
kaRLfunkel


nice video karl.
The magnetic gravity wheel uses gravity to provide rotation
once magnets repell smaller wheels into a state of unbalance
on a larger wheel.
There is no rest state
or

balance state.




An illustration of states of unbalance
and rest.
The shaded areas are weighted on a wheel that is
free to rotate due to gravity forces.




HI,
you have to put in two times the work to rise the potentional energy of the excentric small rollers.
Do you understand?
You rise the weights at low and at high T-point relative to their datum (point

of rotation).
This work package should be compared with the proposed higher momentum in one direction.
It&#039;s simple to calculate the momentum in static configuration:
Sum of all momentas

arround the datum of the big disc should be zero.
In dynamic case (e.g. self exciting) The sum is not zero.
The momentas are calculated by using the points of gravity of the small disks (experimentally

detected, I can tell you how, ask me) and
the vertical distance between datum of big wheel and datum of roller wheel.
Make a sum of all of them and watch what happened, don&#039;t forget the work to

rise the weights).
Sometimes there is plus, sometimes there is minus (when you rise your weights at low and high T).
It is definately a low rpm design.
But: A good NEW DESIGN
Greatful<br

/>kaRLfunkel



NdFeB magnets are very
powerful and should provide
some impressive repelling forces to boost the output
 of the design...
I would appreciate any feedback and will answer all

questions.....
hopefully this week I can get the magnets
I need to complete a working model....
The video is of a small wheel illustrating the free turning speed



The&nbsp; large wheel mounted and ready for repelling magnets on the backboard and small wheels to be mounted to it...



The next stage...smaller wheels/discs mounted to larger wheel ready for repelling magnets to be fixed to back board...

top repelling magnets fixed to backboard....note two smaller wheels repelled into new path and approaching wheel uneffected.



Results from experimental setup
1.In full setup with magnets repelling smaller wheels into correct positions for rotation magnetic drag is not overcome
2.In static setup with smaller wheels set in above

positions with no magnets on backboard rotation occurs.
3.the offsetting wieght to stop rotation in static mode is @that of a smaller wheel.

To correct the above more weight was added to the smaller

wheels but this seemed to only be cancelled out by more drag due to greater repelling force requirements.

From the above results a design modification is required to just turn smaller wheels at top and

bottom of rotation without continous repelling forces required around the wheel.Further the larger wheel will need to be larger diameter with a greater number of smaller wheels mounted on it.

Smaller

wheels 100 mm diameter/Larger wheel diameter 650 mm.Mounting smaller wheels 40 mm inside circumference


tryed to post video of rotating wheel with an offset weight less than that of one smaller wheel assembly but it is too big to post......working on maximising the torque of the smaller wheels with a redistribution of

weight............

[mapsrg]

here is one of the attachments that were lost.Note the smaller wheels are repelled into a new path.

[mapsrg]

picture of small wheel,100 mm diameter.This diameter is currently being increased to gain greater offset advantage.

[mapsrg]

With 200mm Diameter smaller wheels a total of 520mm leverage advantage is gained to one side of the larger wheel to facilitate rotation .

[mapsrg]

see also Magnetic imbalance Wheel for a view of one of the lost diagrams of the magnetic gravity wheel.