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Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery

Started by 0ne, May 25, 2008, 09:14:52 PM

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Tinker

Quote from: sirmikey1 on August 14, 2008, 04:24:56 AM
This thread led me over to the Testatica device, reading, and I'm seeing that they
take the original static voltage and split it off into several different power building
devices, some in series, to build power/amps.

Scroll down on this link to FIGURE 7, read the details/construction materials. 
http://www.rexresearch.com/testatik/testart.htm

SM

I wondered into to my kitchen today and found a "bucket" that appears to be Identical to the one in Dr Stiffers image of one of his setups that I posted earlier today.

I played around with it tonight and it did read voltage with the same neo's from the first vid but results were far less impresive from my first vid 8 neo's vs 48 in the first vid.

Also according to the new meter I bought when I turn it to amps it displays .078 amps for a brief instant consistantly and then settles on zeros, it has a resistor in it I suspect that has something to do with it.

I did a wet (water in the Bucket) and dry both with the similar results.

I will see what I can do to post a video by the weekend.

The bucket I found today has no label or identifing markings sorry I can't provide a source but the microwaveable plastic I think is the key.

Be Well
Tinker








Koen1

Quote from: Tinker on August 13, 2008, 12:45:37 PM
Becouse the Post it Notes worked, the "Real Dielectric" did not.
Right. Just like I've been saying all along. It only works with a paper "dry electrolyte"
and not with a proper dielectric/isolator, and so it must be a galvanic reaction.

QuoteIf you have read the thread here you will see that I retracted the "amps" comment in the video it was my error and it's not like the video can be edited like we do here on the forum.
Well yes, but I did not see you retract that untill after I posted that remark. Thanks for clearing that up though. ;)

QuoteI wait with baited breath your replication so I can pick on it and tell you what you should have done.
I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you, since I had already tried this before you posted your video, and it seems
quite silly to "replicate" something I had already tested before you tried and filmed it. :)
Isn't your version the "replication" then, by the way? ;)
I've been pointing out that it doesn't work with a real isolator material and that it appears to need two different
metals to work, which leads to the conclusion that it is a galvanic effect.
And everyone has confirmed this so far.
If you had read the thread, you would have read those things in my posts.
And you are welcome to "pick on" my reported observations there... Although I wonder what there is to
pick on; we have a bimetallic junction that seems to produce low voltage when a typical classic
"dry battery" seperator like paper is used, but no longer when an actual isolator is used, and
therefore it seems to be a form of the very classic "dry" Voltaic Pile. But instead of using a bench vise
to apply pressure to the stack, here magnets are used to apply the pressure.
We also have very low voltage and very low amperage, if we get any amps at all.

If there is anything you feel I have omitted here, or that there is a better or different explanation
for the observed readings, then by all means educate me.

Also, please don't think I am trying to "pick on you" or anything, I'm just trying to divide the
wheat from the chaff so to speak and to seperate known effects and psysical explanations
for the observed effects from the overenthousiastic but scientifically highly implausible explanations
suggested by some, like the idea that "electricity is all magnetic particle streams and those can be
pulled out of a magnet and used as electricity" and such misconceptions.

Tinker

Quote from: Koen1 on August 12, 2008, 10:17:58 AM
I just watched it, and there's a few loose ends there :)
First of all, the guy shows two meters and says he's measuring the DC voltage on the left one,
and simultaneously the AC voltage on the right one. Now that sounds like a good double test setup,
but then you can never clearly see if the meters are showing millivolts or volts, and the guy
never mentions it either. He does mention at some point that, quote, "you can see the charge build up
on the left meter, up to one amp, then it starts over again". Now that is a hell of an odd statement,
since he's measuring voltage and not amperage... Seems to me he just made a mistake and meant
to say it goes up to one volt, probably.  '
Second of all, voltage is just that: voltage. It is not current and not really usable "power". It's just static
charge. The video never shows any amperage anywhere, the guy mentions "one amp" but never shows it,
and he sure as hell isn't measuring it in the video...
Third of all, and extremely important, he does not say exactly what kind of neo magnets he's using, although
I think he's using nickel coated neodymiums since those are most common. So he still has nickel and
aluminium and a very bad isolator and potential "dry electrolyte" in a typical "dry battery" setup...
He should try replacing the post-it note with a real isolator, a good piece of nonconductive plastic or something...

I tried this with far fewer neos and I also got a very small voltage when I didn't use a proper isolator material,
but whenever I replaced it with a good isolator I got zero volts.
Even when I used post-it and brown paper as "isolators" (or actually "dry electrolyte" but hey) and I did get
very low voltages, I never got any amperage.
Voltage is easy to make. But to make so much of it continually that it turns into a current, that's something else.


Fair assement I am that guy,

I tried very hard to display the actual results on the meters for all to see but most weren't able due to my limitations and lack of expertise and equiptment.

Both meters were reading MV AC and DC

Your statment about current is correct I have pondered the same question. But I have seen more than one replication where an LED was been powered using magnets.

Today I looked back at Dr Stiffers work and recognized a vessel that he used in one of his builds.

I happened to find one in my home that appeared identical and spent some time working with it. It is a common microwavable storage container. I spent some time with it and had some sucess with it today.

I suspect it has propertys not found in other non microwaveable containers.

My "amps" statment was corrected here on this forum in another thread later that day, you might also note the time on the Vid it was 4am EST it was a long day.

I am working on a new Vid that I hope will be up over the weekend.

Be well 
Tinker

 


sirmikey1

Koen,
 Tinkers is no replication, it's quite different/unique and with different results.
  So what's your conclusion to this device?  Point me to the thread if I've missed
anything?  Not enough initial power to bother with? Like trying to start a fire by
rubbing two sticks together?
Regards,
SM

alkaro

The energy does not come from the magnet. It come from 2 different metalls. That's all.

Mark