Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery

[captainpecan]

Hey, just kiss and make up so we can get on with learning and understanding concepts here, geesh... lol... If I ever need a debate team, I think I'm gonna recruit everyone from this forum...

Who's right? Who's wrong? Who cares?

Honestly, the funny part about most of what I've learned from everywhere about over-unity, I honestly feel the best and most practical answer will most likely be found by someone with no education, half retarded, and never learned from all the text books saying it isn't possible!

Tinker, dont stop making vids because they get nitpicked to death. It's all about learning what does and does not work. Most of us do not expect a perfect video, with flawless speach, and expert knowledge with absolute proof! I enjoyed your video, and the questions I had regarding it, you answered. It simply shows that you, like me, are actually working to learn and figure this stuff out, while many just sit and read posts all the time.

I've been working on about 50 different ideas and concepts. Some are friggen stupid, most dont work at all, and the rest ALMOST work... lol... Just like everyone elses... But I have a thurst for knowledge, and I'm learning alot.

[captainpecan]

Out of curiousity? I have heard it mentioned many different ways. I've heard magnets last 400 years without losing it's field, (which I dont buy for the most part), I've heard as soon as they are put to work they lose their field, and of course the 3 proven ways to cause a magnet to lose it's field.

My question is this, does anyone actually have some good info with tests showing one way or another and whether magnets actually lose their field when used to attract and repel against other like magnets? I cant seem to find any good info to be honest. Because it seems to me that the alternator in my car has made much more energy from those magnets in it than the energy it took to magnetize them? In other words, it seems to me the energy coming from a coil the magnet passed by, was not really robbed from the magnet, or the magnets would die much faster than they appear to.

Can someone point me to the right info please?

[sirmikey1]

Captain,

  Magnets will outlive all of us here; but can be weakened if you strike them. 
I've been able to strengthen them by hitting and rubbing a stronger one against
the weaker.  Can also use a demagnetizer. I've also read that you always
store horseshoe magnets with the bar across the opening, says it makes them
stronger, builds/captures more force. I don't know about that last one.

  Here's a question for you guys, anyone here:  How do transistors amplify signals? 
Does recitifying the a/c double the signal, or is it switching multiple signals into a
series; both; or what?   

Thanks,
SM

[Tinker]

Right. Just like I've been saying all along. It only works with a paper "dry electrolyte"

Yes so far, Have you seen Stiffliers work? one of his setups used a wet setup with a non permeable membrane "The Bucket" and was able to get a reproducible result.   

and not with a proper dielectric/isolator, and so it must be a galvanic reaction.

Is "must be" a verifiable fact or an assumption? due to a lack of other information.

Based on what I have seen here at OU new information shows up here on a regular basis, That is what keeps most of us coming back.

I truly don't have anything more than my experiences as flawed may be are shared and to the best of my ability to be accurate and truthful.
As always the reader has the option to accept or reject my what I share, I don't have a problem with that.

Well yes, but I did not see you retract that until after I posted that remark. Thanks for clearing that up though.
I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you, since I had already tried this before you posted your video,

So did I

and it seems
quite silly to "replicate" something I had already tested before you tried and filmed it.
Isn't your version the "replication" then, by the way?

I was impressed with Stiffers work and followed his lead with my own version.

I've been pointing out that it doesn't work with a real isolator material and that it appears to need two different
metals to work, which leads to the conclusion that it is a galvanic effect.

The only thing that worked for me was the Post-it notes for an isolator I did around 20 different types of Plastic with no joy soda bottles to trash bags.

Don't know about the metallurgy I used Zinc coated Neo's, aluminum rails in my later attempts (after the Vid) the AL seemed to make things more stable as in dampening and also kept the neos easier to work with and Nu metal strips for connections. Using 2 rails in a diffrent configuration I increased the the reset time from what I showed on the vid by about 30% above what I showed in the vid.
 
And everyone has confirmed this so far.

My observation as well

If you had read the thread, you would have read those things in my posts

I did.

And you are welcome to "pick on" my reported observations there... Although I wonder what there is to
pick on; we have a bimetallic junction that seems to produce low voltage when a typical classic
"dry battery" separator like paper is used, but no longer when an actual isolator is used, and
therefore it seems to be a form of the very classic "dry" Voltaic Pile. But instead of using a bench vise
to apply pressure to the stack, here magnets are used to apply the pressure.
We also have very low voltage and very low amperage, if we get any amps at all.

I have seen the same thing in my travels and experience. My problem is unless I accept Immaculate illumination how did Stiffler and Gary power their Neo's without current/amps, Gary could be the pile theory but what about Stiffler.

If there is anything you feel I have omitted here, or that there is a better or different explanation
for the observed readings, then by all means educate me.

Also, please don't think I am trying to "pick on you" or anything, I'm just trying to divide the
wheat from the chaff so to speak and to separate known effects and psysical explanations
for the observed effects from the overenthousiastic but scientifically highly implausible explanations
suggested by some, like the idea that "electricity is all magnetic particle streams and those can be
pulled out of a magnet and used as electricity" and such misconceptions.

My first line in response to your post was it was a fair evaluation, If I knew it all I would be on my way to Maui by now.

Be well
Tinker

P.S. The "Bucket" looked promising on the first try, but I haven't had much success with it today but I'm still working on it.   

[CrazyEwok]

Hi all...
i have a few things i wish to add to this now, dusty topic...
In my trial i used a rare earth magnet i got off ebay. It is powerful but it is a disc not a horse shoe.
The "spacer" (I'm not going to say dielectric or anything like that for reasons later described) is a napkin soaked in filtered water with 2 steel clips that are used at my work for securing steel strapping for shipments.
I have used an ordinary receipt as a spacer and i get mild results not as good as the napkin soaked in water. I have also found that maintaining the spacer in a "bath" of water seems to help this little experiment hold its voltage.
OK i better explain why i am saying spacer. I think that (and i will test this some how and post results) that it is not a dielectric that you need but a nonmagnetic or nonmetallic conductor. The better it can conduct the better this will work. Thats my theory on this. That is why the really nonconducting spacer experiments failed.
OK next proposition, to prove to people saying that this is an alchemical reaction where electricity is produced can they post a test that would prove this wrong. If nickle and tin/steel produces electricity then would someone doing this test with a nickle plated washer/nail as the bridge solve that??? if so i might be able to get some tests done.

OK strange findings...

My setup to date
  I = Steel clip
  ~= Napkin soaked in water
O= My Disc magnet (really thin, about 5mm, cylinder magnet)

Note: The napkin is folded to make it a long rectangle the same size as the largest face of the magnet then folded so that it can be folded around the magnet. Like a sandwich.

   I~O~I

I'll post pics if this is unclear.
When i use my multimeter and touch both clips i get about half the reading then if i touch one clip and the magnet. maintaining one probe on the magnet and moving the other between clips give about the same reading but as a negative. My conclusion to this is that there is 2 circuts in the magnet... Not new news i know but it would seem i have isolated them...

Some other ideas that i have on how magnetic fields affect electrons is.
A magnetic field weakens the "shell" that the electrons hold around their atoms. So if a shell is already weak this weakens it more. Explanation: Think of Faradays electric generator and how Tesla improved it. Now apply this principal : The electrons shells are weakened by the magnetic fields interference allowing them to move easier. So you magnetise a copper disk, without rotation there is no charge because there is no where for the electrons to go. No force acting on them. Add rotation (centrifugal forces) and now you have power generation. And a reasoning as to why the outside of the disk is positively charged and the middle is negatively charged. If i am right then magnetic fields can be used to lower the resistances of materials to electrical current. No doubt i will get some responce from someone telling me i am wrong, which i hope they supply proof or some evidence to back it up not just "the laws of physics are..."

Another observation made is that this experiment will only build charge up to a point and then drops it. I have also noticed that if there is no load on the circut then it drops to a point and sits there... i have found this interesting, i would like to know why this is, and if there is more resistance will it be more charge. How does it determin its charge point?
More experiments and variables to test as i have time and i will attempt to post as much info as i can.

Laters