David Hamel Generator.

[Steven Dufresne]

@Koen1,
For my part, it's to do the proof of concept one, the 45 gallon device, to prove it works and to understand how it works. If it does work then it may or may not have energy tapping potential. Actually it would have some since David referred to it as the heater and wanted someone to build one to warm his workshop in the winter - he was to busy with a weight-into-speed device and his spaceship. And for those who don't know, his own 45 gallon drum one was destroyed when it imploded. If it's ZPE being tapped, there may even be measureable gravitational anomalies even though David Hamel's 45 gallon drum one did not fly. Also, I remember David saying that size is an issue, and that it would have to be on the order of the size of the 45 gallon to see results. Perhaps the engine one would have to be larger for gravitational effects to kick in. So the 45 gallon drum size is about as big as I'd want to build for proof of concept.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org

[Koen1]

@Steven: What the old Hamel guys told me, as is what
I recall from Hamels account of the event, is that the first
full scale 45GD "3 cone device" Hamel built went active after
he put the lid on, and after a day or so it had built up a bluish
aura around it, made a humming/vibrating noise, and at some point
just shot up into the air, straight through his roof, and was never
seen again.
This according to Hamel was proof unquestionable, and after that
he started building the flattened-out engine version.

But then again, I can only tell you what I was told about that, as I
never spoke to Hamel personally.

Interesting factoid is that the "Hamel Spinning Top" was investigated by
a couple of MIT students who analysed it quite recently (year or two ago),
and concluded that it is not only a funky setup but most interestingly that
such a setup has the ability to transduce thermal noise from the environment
into ballistic transport (of the ball and magnet) very efficiently.
In other words: Hamels "spinner" can work and thermal noise can power it.

Well in any case, it is nice to see people actually seriously looking at the Hamel tech again.

Oh, und Entschuldigung das ich kein Deutsch spreche... mein ?nglisch ist so viel besser.

[Dansway]

To this day, people do NOT understand or have a clue what David Hamel is about or his story.

The drum device is NOT what people should be working on! 
Mr. Hamel's tried to build another "drum experiment" and could not get it to work and abandoned it for his real mission, the UFO tech.

Regards,

Dan

[Steven Dufresne]

@Steven: What the old Hamel guys told me, as is what
I recall from Hamels account of the event, is that the first
full scale 45GD "3 cone device" Hamel built went active after
he put the lid on, and after a day or so it had built up a bluish
aura around it, made a humming/vibrating noise, and at some point
just shot up into the air, straight through his roof, and was never
seen again.
This according to Hamel was proof unquestionable, and after that
he started building the flattened-out engine version.
But then again, I can only tell you what I was told about that, as I
never spoke to Hamel personally.

No offense intended, but I think you're misremembering it, probably remembering a mix of things (45GD+Hamel's engine that did fly away+Schauberger's device that went through the roof?). I'm sure if you go to the hameltech group right now and ask you'll find the Hamel's 45GD didn't lift off. That it imploded is what he told me. Quoting from Jeanne Manning's "The Granite Man & the Butterfly" as told to her by David Hamel:

"Working in the garage attached to their house [this was back in Maple Ridge, BC, Canada], he placed the apparatus inside a 45-gallon black steel barrel ringed on the inside with magnets. The barrel would be the shell of the device.
  Everything lined up. Then he screwed down the cover. This compressed the apparatus forcing the isotope line to break into three parts and starting the tumbling motion passed on from one to the other The rings of magnets repelling each other caused the cones to float one over the other. They swung in a constant wobbling circling motion, faster and faster. After they reached a certain speed the vibration somewhat stabilized.
  David was pleased that his model operated. He went into the house to share his success and attend to Nora's needs, leaving the experimental device running. As he shut the French doors between the garage and the living room, he was unconcerned that the device was wobbling away in the barrel with its cap on. He was certain that the relatively small apparatus would not produce an energy effect, and he expected that it might soon stop its wobbling. He wanted to see how long it would run. If the motion continued until morning, he would be very surprised, he thought.
  "It'll never fly. But maybe I can learn from it," he told Nora.
  The couple went to bed and slept until they were awakened by an extremely loud bang. "Fire!" Nora said.
  David jumped out of bed and looked toward the attached garage. A red glow came from that direction through the French doors and lit the living room. From the bedroom, it did look as if the garage was on fire!
  Inside the garage, he encountered a dismaying sight. His carefully-built device had exploded out of the drum and was scattered in pieces all over the room. Apparently the red glow had been from a buildup of energy of some type as the device operated. There was no fire, fortunately, but his investment of thousands of dollars in magnets was destroyed.
  The mess of metal and the broken roofing shakes on the top of the building were not as discouraging to David as the loss of all those ceramic magnets. However, he had the satisfaction of seeing that he could build something which demonstrated the power of the magnetic repulsion coupled with the arrangement of the "breaking lines"."

Oh, and David gave me the actual magnets he used in the top of the drum and top cone as well as a few of the actual magnets he used in the bicycle rims, so they certainly didn't shoot up never to be seen again. You can see them again here :-):
http://rimstar.org/sdprop/haml45gd/h45gdavd/h45gdavd.htm

Interesting factoid is that the "Hamel Spinning Top" was investigated by
a couple of MIT students who analysed it quite recently (year or two ago),
and concluded that it is not only a funky setup but most interestingly that
such a setup has the ability to transduce thermal noise from the environment
into ballistic transport (of the ball and magnet) very efficiently.
In other words: Hamels "spinner" can work and thermal noise can power it.

Sounds very interesting. Do you have a reference? I couldn't find anything.

Well in any case, it is nice to see people actually seriously looking at the Hamel tech again.

Oh, und Entschuldigung das ich kein Deutsch spreche... mein ?nglisch ist so viel besser.

Und meine Entschuldigungen zu sprechen Englisch auf dieser deutschen Sektion des Forums. Ich wei? nur etwa zwei Dutzend deutschen W?rtern.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org

[Steven Dufresne]

Mr. Hamel's tried to build another "drum experiment" and could not get it to work and abandoned it for his real mission, the UFO tech.

When you say he tried to build another "drum experiment" are you refering to a more recent attempt while living in Gilmore? I know he work on a WIS (weight-into-speed) device that didn't work out sometime in the last 8 years or so before he passed away, but that's quite different than the 45GD. I remember seeing the beginnings of it in his quonset.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org
PS. Nice to hear from you again, Dan!