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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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DrStiffler

@Group
Please pardon my intrusion, but I have missed a valuable bit of information and hope someone will point me in the right direction (without sarcasm).

Where is the information on why one needs atm*x versus atm=1 to observe the effect of the plasma on vapor? Has no one tried something as simple as I have?

I may be all wrong, but is the basis of the research on a few people that have stated they have engines running or is it based on the ability of blowing up a simple plastic bottle containing some vapor and a plug?

Please, I do want to explore this, but as so many say about my work, they want supporting information.

Thanks Much....
All things are possible but some are impractical.

bumfuzzled

I put the inverter on a seperate battery and it DIDN'T blow up!!   ;D But now when I arc the plug a few times pretty fast the display on the inverter reads SC for short circuit. Maybe I just need to get a different brand of inverter.


greendoor

Bumfuzzled - open up the gap on your plug.  And check that your capactor isn't short circuited.  You are drawing far too much current.  The object of this exercise is to use the minimum voltage to create the spark, and the minimum current to explode the water.  Power = Volts x Amps - and if you are using too much power, you will never achieve overunity. 

Inserting a light bulb, or a high wattage low ohms resistor (around 2 ohms) might also give you some current limiting - but it's also a waste of energy.  See if you can charge your capacitor to 110V without blowing up your inverter.  Then, use the capacitor energy to fire your plug. 

resonanceman

Quote from: qiman on July 04, 2008, 07:44:13 PM
Gary,

"In the  video  he said  Luc  has made a  mini Grey tube .........not  quite  true  "

I talked about the electroradiant event that happens in the tube. Please watch your
analysis of what I do and please don't change what I say or take what I say out
of context as you have done. What I have said IS quite true.



I  don't think   I  took  anything out of  context ..........   I  believe that what I said  is true and  accurate .

Perhaps   if you  want to  say someone  made  an  electroradiant  event  you  might  make some attempt  to   explain that to all the people that   have not  spent  half their  lives studying these kinds of things . 

I  do  agree that it is very  likely a radiant  event ........ but it is not   a Gray  tube ........at least not yet .


gary



greendoor

Quote from: DrStiffler on July 04, 2008, 08:13:20 PM
@Group
Please pardon my intrusion, but I have missed a valuable bit of information and hope someone will point me in the right direction (without sarcasm).

Where is the information on why one needs atm*x versus atm=1 to observe the effect of the plasma on vapor? Has no one tried something as simple as I have?

I may be all wrong, but is the basis of the research on a few people that have stated they have engines running or is it based on the ability of blowing up a simple plastic bottle containing some vapor and a plug?

Please, I do want to explore this, but as so many say about my work, they want supporting information.

Thanks Much....

No sarcasm, but ... WTF is "atm*x versus atm=1"?  Atmospheric Pressure? Please don't assume that everyone here has followed all your posts and knows what you are talking about ....

I'm seeking answers too - and my big unanswered questions are:

Why vapour?  If the energy comes from the latent heat of liquid water, then why not use water - and get the spark to turn the water into vapour, liberating the most energy?

Why compression?  That's applying existing ICE ideas to something that may not behave anything like an ICE.  AFAIK, lightening bolts in a storm cloud are in localised low pressure zones ... a depression weather event.

Why air?  Hydrocarbon fuels require oxygen, but water already contains oxygen.  And maybe the effect we want isn't the high temp disassociation of hydrogen & oxygen anyway (that would appear to require too much power input)? 

So is the ideal process Anaerobic?

I'm not wanting to muddy the waters - I really want to clarify the very essence of the overunity principle that is being tested here.  There will be many versions of working designs - but we need to understand the heart of the working principle ... there have been many false leads so far.

For example - can we safely consider that "special inverters" was a mistake/red-herring/mis-direction?