URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[qiman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8OnvanMi-g

Also, I have this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1ADb91lJvI
I'm not showing the electroradiant event in this vid...just high frequency impules.

Point is, I do understand the collector plates as I have actually built it.

[goldenequity]

@qiman/Aaron

qiman quote:"There are some very specific ways to design the circuit so that worrying about the isolation is not even an issue. There are extra benefits to this that I will discuss later."

Just the concept of arcing Hi positive to Lo positive (and not to ground) to achieve plasma should have all circuit designers attention.
Is this why you are saying "isolation" is not even an issue?
Can we chat about the "extra benefits"? It's time..... the world hangs by a thread.... we need to work together.
Thanks ahead for sharing Aaron.

[qiman]

Gary,

"In the  video  he said  Luc  has made a  mini Grey tube .........not  quite  true  "

I talked about the electroradiant event that happens in the tube. Please watch your
analysis of what I do and please don't change what I say or take what I say out
of context as you have done. What I have said IS quite true.

[callanan]

@ Luc, Ossie and all
In this video presented to the group here,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l54wlbi0Szk

qiman/Aaron is challenging us.
We are continuing to design/modify circuits around a basic premise that we have adopted defacto.

That is, we assume we are piggybacking a HV spark onto a LV spark as a simultaneous event to produce the plasma effect.

He clearly shows the HV spark can be separated (unless I misunderstood) and still produce the plasma effect.

Am I right about this?

Hi goldenequity,

The circuit presented in the video is simply a basic embodiment of what the strobe only drive circuit does. You can view S1 in the video circuit as the xenon tube. But regardless, the beauty of such a circuit is that it allows the same and single low voltage source to created both the HV pulse as well as the LV current to create the powerfull plasma discharge. Although I think this will have great application for other forms of devices as well as in other areas of research, the reasons I am focussing on a LV current driver circuit is because I feel that this is what will be the best way to be able to adapt existing engines to run on water only as existing engines already have the HV part of the circuit working in their ignition systems.

Regards,

Ossie

[callanan]

I don't know what is happing, right now I'm leaning towards the video explanation. I got a big white/blue flash and bang with no water! About the same as I was getting before on the old circuit with water, except it had some orange. Didn't get to try with water before the diodes failed.

Can anyone else try with water?

I was using a 120uf 200V cap.

Regards, Larry

Hi LarryC,

One thing I would like to point out with the discharge and the reaction with water present is that, as Luc has told us of previously, even moisture in the air can increase the explosiveness of the discharge. Spraying water on your spark gap certainly increases the explosiveness a great deal but if you don't, humidity of the air and any natural condensate of moisture on your electrodes or spark plug will increase the power of the discharge. To alter this, simply use a hair dryer or heat gun and completely dry your electrodes and/or spark plug. Then you will find that the exlosiveness of the discharge will be greatly reduced to the point of being non existent and it will appear as a normal high energy spark discharge, relative to the value of your capacitor of course. This is also a good way to look at both extremes of having water present in the discharge and no water, or very little water present and noting the difference in the discharge. I think you will find it quite significant and unexpected.

Regards,

Ossie