URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[retrod]

Hi Broli,

It means there are a number of processes that are required to occur in the water for it to explode. Various circuits can initiate these processes in the water but in the end, it is the water that does the work and it is the water that explodes. There are no magic circuits or processes in the applied electrical energy that are needed to make the water explode. It is standard text book electrical theory at work here.

Regards,

Ossie

Great work Ossie! After llooking at your latest schematic it struck me that this process now looks much like the research Ironhead has been doing with plasma. Here is the thread. http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2058.msg25174.html#msg25174
From what we see in Ironheads design and custom 'sparkplug' the ideal temperature for the electrolyte would be above 160 degree F. Then the current required to sustain the arc should drop.

RD

[IndianaBoys]

Rather than using salt or chlorine or chemicals of that nature, give this a whirl.  Make a solution of colloidal copper up using simple electrolysis and distilled water and mist the colloidal copper toward the spark plug.

Go to Home Depot and get a foot of number 12 copper wire and remove the plastic coating and make your electrodes from that.  This is a high enough grade of copper to perform this experiment.  In no way are colloids of this grade of copper fit for human consumption, in other words do not drink.

IndianaBoys

[duff]

Hi ramset,

Total efficiency won't be known for quite some time yet. So much more to do to work out all of the performance parameters of this process and understand how they relate to it's overall energy efficiency. In reality we won't have any sort of real numbers until we can get a replicable engine running that can be measured accurately. This is some time away yet. The first step towards this is of course to get an engine running using this process.

Regards,

Ossie

Ossie,

Nice work!

You could put a tube over the sparkplug gap and insert a slug of some nature, fire the plug and calculate the work done by the displacement of the mass?

Test Previously done by retrod: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5024.msg112633.html#msg112633

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_yn0AOUnOU


-Duff

[qiman]

Hi Ossie,

I posted about this in my forum last night. This is great work!

But this quote: "No heat is generated in this conversion but the explosion does result in significant kinetic energy which was shown to be greater than the input electrical energy."

If that is from Graneu (spelling??)...he is wrong and so are a lot of explanations on his site and it doesn't matter about credentials. Academia wants to take something and force it to fit inside of their box of what they already believe.

Luc's method does cause an explosion...followed by an implosion. The H&O ARE disassociating regardless of what he wants to believe and claiming it is simply molecules separating from each other are simply ridiculous.

Take a spark plug with Luc's method and srew a thick bolt on it to create a small cavity that the spark fires in. Spray water on it. Ignite repeatedly with a piece of paper over it...at the end of each spark, the paper is sucked to the bolt. That is classic browns gas implosion following an explosion and you can see it with your own eyes if you use dark sunglasses and look at the flame really close. I see the colors and the hydrogen is igniting showing proof of h/o separation.

No significant motive power is because of the re-association of h/o causing a vacuum....that is why on these spark plug circuits, there needs to be a Meyer EEC (electron extraction circuit) from the annode of the plug back to the input with a bulb in the middle to burn off electrons that are freed during separation...then the bang will be bigger without forming a vacuum right after. ALL COLD EXPLOSION.

I still need to test the salt water spray on Luc's plug to see what happens. Circuit simplified might be nice but it isn't the same type of spark. Did you spray the salt water on the spark using Luc's method?

[k4zep]

Hi Ossie,

I posted about this in my forum last night. This is great work!

But this quote: "No heat is generated in this conversion but the explosion does result in significant kinetic energy which was shown to be greater than the input electrical energy."

If that is from Graneu (spelling??)...he is wrong and so are a lot of explanations on his site and it doesn't matter about credentials. Academia wants to take something and force it to fit inside of their box of what they already believe.

Luc's method does cause an explosion...followed by an implosion. The H&O ARE disassociating regardless of what he wants to believe and claiming it is simply molecules separating from each other are simply ridiculous.

Take a spark plug with Luc's method and srew a thick bolt on it to create a small cavity that the spark fires in. Spray water on it. Ignite repeatedly with a piece of paper over it...at the end of each spark, the paper is sucked to the bolt. That is classic browns gas implosion following an explosion and you can see it with your own eyes if you use dark sunglasses and look at the flame really close. I see the colors and the hydrogen is igniting showing proof of h/o separation.

No significant motive power is because of the re-association of h/o causing a vacuum....that is why on these spark plug circuits, there needs to be a Meyer EEC (electron extraction circuit) from the annode of the plug back to the input with a bulb in the middle to burn off electrons that are freed during separation...then the bang will be bigger without forming a vacuum right after. ALL COLD EXPLOSION.

I still need to test the salt water spray on Luc's plug to see what happens. Circuit simplified might be nice but it isn't the same time of spark. Did you spray the salt water on the spark using Luc's method?

Hi Qiman

Could you elaborate on the Meyer EEC circuit with a little hand drawn schematic of the return path through this EEC bulb starting at the anode (tip?) ?? or at least a detailed wiring explanation?  I am very interested in expanding the recovered electron flow effect....Can this be an efficient generator??

Thanks

Ben