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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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kewlhead

Quote from: UncleFester on September 11, 2008, 06:53:34 PM

@GroundLoop

I understand, that is why I am using a system similar to Luc's. It is a variac into a microwave transformer, then FWB. I have been able to go up to 2KV @ 1uF, but I use a spark gap to discharge the cap at these voltages. I can go all the way up to 1000V @ 50uF (25 joules) by using the SCR. My SCR setup makes the SCR handle the entire discharge current of the cap (capacitor is parallel to the primary of the coil and diode string and SCR is series on the Anode side of the circuit). With an HV relay I can go all the way up to 400 joules discharge but the rep rate is slow (although only one pulse almost destroys the plug). Every time the coil fires it jumps about 2mm off the table from the inductive kick, and the diode strings I use barely handle the output (I use 25-1N5408's in series, and two strings of them in parallel for more current).

I used your circuit with the cap in series with the primary of the coil but I could not get enough energy across the plug to explode water. I beefed up all the components to handle higher voltages and currents and it exploded water then but I still did not get enough energy to create high pressures in a closed chamber. 5 or more Joules is needed and even then the pressure created from exploding the water is not more than 5-10 psi per pulse and we need more like 75 psi per pulse to drive a small engine I believe.

@GotoLuc

I paid 12 a piece for the 1200V @ 25A ones in Salt lake City, UT. Not sure why they would be that much more expensive there unless these were NOS (new old stock).

UncleFester,

Just wanted to bring something to your attention  about Samual Leaches system if I remember correctly his system used a total of 43 joules I believe and at frequencies in the UV & IR band.....  just thought you may interested in that .I think he explains the diffrent level of joules and the effect it had in his system.
sorry for the off topic luc,  wont hurt my feelings to delete it after UncleFester reads it.  :)

UncleFester

Quote from: Groundloop on September 14, 2008, 04:45:49 PM
bwb,

If you are running a 300 Watt inverter and is using, let us say half of that energy, then the total added
energy to you motor will be 150 Watt. This is way too small to make any difference in your motor.

Another issue is the improved combustion with a plasma spark. My best guess is that this will not
impact the motor in a negative way. Only one way to find out, try it on your car. :-)

Then we have the spark plugs. Does anybody know if the Firestorm plugs in on the market?

Groundloop.



FireStorm plugs will be in production soon. All U.S. plug manufacturers would not make them for us because they said they last too long and would make their own plugs obsolete. We are going to have them made outside the country.

The lean conditions normally make an engine run hotter, but only if you are using a poor atomization system such as a carburetor or injector. Once you hit 30:1 and are running a plasma ignition the engine cools down substantially and there is no way for the engine to have valve issues. Once even a small amount of water is introduced the engine cools down even further and horsepower increases by 25 percent or more. At this point there would be no possibility of the engine running too hot.

Increased electrical input into the ignition system DOES NOT increase engine temperatures, it actually cools down because more of the fuel is being burnt instead of heat soaking the cylinder walls with a secondary flame.

@Kewlhead

Interesting find. I'm not sure if I could set up that sort of system but may have time once testing is finished on the plugs and new ignition systems on the V-8's we are running.

gmeast

Hi everyone,

Just uploaded a video showing the water spark plug producing the effect at lower voltage levels.

The video is at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN8jNVq4pKo

Also I'd like to share my progress on my generator test rig. 

Peace,

Greg

The pic shows the sensor plate that will hold some reed switches.  The plate has slotted holes for changing timing.  The larger gear has three holes for mounting the rotor that will hold a magnet that will actuate the reed switches. Hopefully by this time next week I will be running this thing.


Groundloop

gmeast,

What kind of HV diodes are you using? Partnumber?

Groundloop.

b0rg13

Quote from: gmeast on September 14, 2008, 11:47:41 PM
Hi everyone,

Just uploaded a video showing the water spark plug producing the effect at lower voltage levels.

The video is at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN8jNVq4pKo

Also I'd like to share my progress on my generator test rig. 

Peace,

Greg

The pic shows the sensor plate that will hold some reed switches.  The plate has slotted holes for changing timing.  The larger gear has three holes for mounting the rotor that will hold a magnet that will actuate the reed switches. Hopefully by this time next week I will be running this thing.



that looks great! :).best ive seen so far i think.
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