URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[Damianos]

Hi Damianos,
thanks for straightening me out about the alternator tap idea. I think it's a great idea if tested cautiously. A limiting resistance, or light bulb, should keep the power down to a safe minimum. The question is, with a variable frequency AC input, would it need to have a variable capacitance also in order to work properly? Since we aren't using a magnetic plasma injectors, just resistorless spark plugs, I don't see how the tops of the pistons would be at risk from the plasma itself. I think the greater risk is from burning a lean mixture, without water, and causing detonation damage to the pistons. I still need to get all the part numbers, so I can order them. That mouser.com site seems to have some really low prices, if you know what you're looking for. Unfortunately I'm more of a mechanic than an electronic assembly person, so I can't make the cross-references in my head. Damianos, if you live anywhere near Vancouver WA I've got several engines you could work on.
Thanks, Joel

Hi thermalenergy,

I also heve to thank you for your very very useful reply.
The truth is that if the primary 12V coil of the (12V ac to 220V ac) transformer,
having its special "output leveling inductance: Z=square [R2+(ωL)2]" ,
can stand altenator's 228Hz frequency AC power current (when the engine runs on 6200 rpm) without any burning problem,
then (i suppose) there is no need  to put any kind of resistance or bulb, because as you already know, any kind of circuit takes as much intensity (and power from the source) as it needs , and no more.
By the way i believe that praxis is better than theory, so i can't tell anything before the test.
My friend thermalenergy , thank you again for your very very useful, helpful and polite directions to find a second hand engine, but I live away in Greece (SouthEast Europe).
Anyway I have to thank you again for your help my friend.

Friend Damianos

[Johan_1955]

Good job people,

Only interested following from a small distance!

@ Revizal
Great Proof, maybe bit more water, think Papp.
The Ex- and Implosions (+ & - pressure) in resonance with the Piston / Crankshaft?

A for me very usable link: http://sportdevices.nmine.com/ignition/ignition.htm

Thanks all for sharing!
Johan

[gotoluc]

Resending what I was write in energeticforum.com...

Hi All,
Today I tested the plasma effect on gasoline vapour. I made an apparatus that make me able to introduce plasma to gasoline vapour flow before burned. I used self pulsed DPDT relay to simulate engine RPM approx 30 Hz. This below the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9zI9onSUgI

I got explotion and implotion effect on it. Hydrogen enrichment gas ? I donot know. May be someone in this forum could explain that ?

I tought plasma act as catalytic fuel reformer to produce H2 when burn gasoline vapour (seen as explotion effect). Later, I will introduce this system to my GEET genset to see the effect on RPM and we will see if it worked too on diesel fuel.

Thank you,

Revizal.

WOW Revizal... excellent test setup idea ... very interesting effect. It would be interesting if you could have the flame hit a piece of steel that would have a thermometer to see the differences in temperature. I would also like to see water steam introduced by a control valve so you can cut off and see the difference with or without it. If you try it, get a Y connector and have it as close to the plasma spark so it has no time to condensate. Maybe you can use the flame to create your steam, one drop at the time in a stainless container

Great work ... thanks for sharing   

[gmeast]

Short report:

Hi all,

Well, I'm coming up on 300 miles in this test.  I've never gotten more than 25 MPG with in the '64 Bug.  It was rebuilt once to 1300CC from the stock 1200CC.  The factory spec in the owner's manual (actual original manual) says 31 MPG US ... that's with the stock 1200CC engine.  Nothing else is different other than the punch-out to 1300CC except I did put a centrifugal advance distributor on it  ... the original vacuum advance system failed and I couldn't get replacement parts. 

I'm looking forward to installing a real controllable water metering system though because the needle valve approach is fine but I can't adjust the water flow against the mass air flow (engine RPM).

I'll refill at 300 miles.  I'll also take a look at the spark plugs.

Peace,

Greg

[Damianos]

Short report:

Hi all,

Well, I'm coming up on 300 miles in this test.  I've never gotten more than 25 MPG with in the '64 Bug.  It was rebuilt once to 1300CC from the stock 1200CC.  The factory spec in the owner's manual (actual original manual) says 31 MPG US ... that's with the stock 1200CC engine.  Nothing else is different other than the punch-out to 1300CC except I did put a centrifugal advance distributor on it  ... the original vacuum advance system failed and I couldn't get replacement parts. 

I'm looking forward to installing a real controllable water metering system though because the needle valve approach is fine but I can't adjust the water flow against the mass air flow (engine RPM).

I'll refill at 300 miles.  I'll also take a look at the spark plugs.

Peace,

Greg

Hi my friend Greg,

I am really very happy with your result!
Congratulations my friend!

Your friend
Damianos