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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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gmeast

Quote from: diehostusxana on August 29, 2010, 08:53:57 AM
Hello, guys,
I am newbee to this forum, although have been watching for a while.
The experiment from gotoluc, which is posted on the first page (power inverter + bridge + 10diodes + ignition coil + switch + sparkplug), I suceeded: I did attach to 220V, took 450v/100uF capacitator, the coil from Accel (high performance racing coil, the 140010, from ebay.com, told to be 50kV). The plasma effect was obvious. Fine :)
Then I look around to put it on some car.
My problem & question: within the ignition system, the distributor is giving pulses within '-' cable and not '+' (so '+' is always on and ground is pulsed). How should I adopt the gotoluc electronics, to apply the circuit to car? Should I use some MOSFET (?which?) to open '+' to diode's imput as soon as ground is on?............the answer is already hanging, please give me a link.
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and the last question, has somebody tried using this ignition + HHO+ warm/hot WaterVapor?

hope somebody will help me :)
I am in Germany, Bremen - so if there are some "the guys" around, let me know :)

Hi diehostusxana,

I did exactly that until attention shifted to the 'piggyback' form of the circuit.  The Panacea website has everything I did which was a full blown version of the ignition system using two Mosfet Relays.

Here are the ciruits I built and tested plus put into my VW Bug.  I will put more up on it if you like:

http://02d1852.netsolhost.com/plasma/sparkplug/distrib2.jpg
http://02d1852.netsolhost.com/plasma/sparkplug/module.jpg
http://02d1852.netsolhost.com/plasma/sparkplug/2hall.jpg
http://02d1852.netsolhost.com/plasma/sparkplug/compl.jpg
http://02d1852.netsolhost.com/plasma/sparkplug/chargepulse.jpg
http://02d1852.netsolhost.com/plasma/sparkplug/install.jpg
http://02d1852.netsolhost.com/plasma/sparkplug/clusters.jpg

When I changed to my Vexus circuit (piggyback version) I tested ratios and steam/mist.  If I can find the video of this running in my VW then I'll update my YouTube channel ... it is gmeast ... it shows my baseline replication too

Greg


OK I found the videos of this installation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwkaQFr_43A

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zhGTTW0q_o

diehostusxana

Quote from: ramset on August 29, 2010, 09:03:56 AM
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Chet

Thanks, Chet,
I red about those two guys and ANTON Cell. Nice :) now doing some brainstroming...

diehostusxana

Quote from: gmeast on August 29, 2010, 02:36:29 PM
I did exactly that until attention shifted to the 'piggyback' form of the circuit.  ...
Here are the ciruits I built and tested plus put into my VW Bug.

thank you gmeast for the nice suggestion :). I took look at the schematics. Seems you have continuous +120V switched to spark plugs throug those NTE517 diodes, right? I see, you have lot of txt in Panacea - I will get through those schematics&photos&videos first and post here, if have further questions.

gmeast

Quote from: diehostusxana on August 29, 2010, 05:49:10 PM
thank you gmeast for the nice suggestion :). I took look at the schematics. Seems you have continuous +120V switched to spark plugs throug those NTE517 diodes, right? I see, you have lot of txt in Panacea - I will get through those schematics&photos&videos first and post here, if have further questions.

Hi,

Yes (about)145VDC+ (rectified 120 AC) is a potential (stress) on the spark plug 'gap'.  When the discharge mosfet fires the 47uF cap at the coil, a pathway is formed for a large DC current (coming from the 470uF cap at the FWB) to burst forth in the spark plug gap ... creating the ionizing energy needed for the plasma(?) to form.  The HV diodes 'FORCE' the current to stay in the gap (unless you have leaky insulators).  This is required because there are lower potentials everywhere else for this high energy discharge to go ... other than the gap ... hence the HV Diodes.  Since we have a very, very high voltage conduit formed by the coil, the entire package of energy might just follow the rules for high voltage/frequency such as skin effect, etc. and never get to the plug gap ... or it might back up like a sewer (doubt that ... but it will go somewhere).

Good luck,

Greg

diehostusxana

sorry Gerg, I am back with questions ...

Quote from: gmeast on August 30, 2010, 10:38:23 AM
When the discharge mosfet fires the 47uF cap at the coil, a pathway is formed for a large DC current (coming from the 470uF cap at the FWB) to burst forth in the spark plug gap

so you have a continuous stress of 145V on spark plags
and when distributor don't fire SPDT, then the 47uF is being charged and when on switch, then the 47uF passes '-' to the coil.
Why do you need the 470uF at all then (to boost power of transforme for the spark moment?)?
Why are you using MOSFETs at all? - don't you get the same when connecting SPDT to the coil? (why you insist on using capacitor discharge?)

hmm, I feel strange, that you are giving continuous 145V to the diodes (I understood from gotoluc that the '+' should be pulsed together with coil). Don't You have current between coil's output (+145V) and coil's +input (+12V)?

sorry for so much questions... but I want to understand the stuff.