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Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

Started by hartiberlin, October 04, 2005, 06:54:25 PM

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Tacmatricx

Hey RR,

Sorry to have dropped off the planet!

That sounds like an interesting idea you have there that could be switched by a simple relay... I think i'll give it a shot as it would get rid of the resistors that crap out the massive gas generation i'm used to.

Will give it a crack this weekend and let you know.

Cheers,

Chris

ResinRat2

Hi Chris,

If you can give it a try I would appreciate that. Let's see if you can duplicate my results.

I think it looks pretty good from my end so I will plan on using this type of setup in the larger reactor. I am building a mechanical timing switch right now that will be running off the fan motor. I think I will set it up to switch every hour from regeneration to non-regeneration mode, then back again. In a continuous loop. That way the switch is running off the fuel cell and the unit is just producing a continuous stream of hydrogen gas.

I appreciate your efforts on this Chris. You helped to give this project a new direction and a new life.

It will feel good to get the larger reactor back in operation.





Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

mscoffman

Quote from: ResinRat2 on September 10, 2008, 06:46:33 PM

I think it looks pretty good from my end so I will plan on using this type of setup in the larger reactor. I am building a mechanical timing switch right now that will be running off the fan motor. I think I will set it up to switch every hour from regeneration to non-regeneration mode, then back again. In a continuous loop. That way the switch is running off the fuel cell and the unit is just producing a continuous stream of hydrogen gas.


@ALL,

no need to reply, but someone at some point should try varying the "duty cycle" of the timer. That is the percent of time it is "on"
versus time it is "off". More than likely it is currently 50%<->50%.  The duty cycle percent should match the reaction rates to try to
keep the re-plate reaction centered over the metal ion concentration in the electrolyte. It could very well be that the duty cycle is more
important than the absolute time. If the re-plate state is held onto too long it could cause abnormal or undesirable side reactions to
occur over time.

:S:MarkSCoffman


ResinRat2

Quote from: mscoffman on September 10, 2008, 07:55:05 PM
...someone at some point should try varying the "duty cycle" of the timer. That is the percent of time it is "on"
versus time it is "off". More than likely it is currently 50%<->50%.  The duty cycle percent should match the reaction rates to try to keep the re-plate reaction centered over the metal ion concentration in the electrolyte. It could very well be that the duty cycle is more important than the absolute time. If the re-plate state is held onto too long it could cause abnormal or undesirable side reactions to occur over time.
:S:MarkSCoffman

I agree Mark, but the only way this would be determined is experimentally. Once I get the larger reactor going with the timer I will be doing trial and error tests on the regeneration timing. It will probably take some time before we determine the ideal timing cycle.
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

triffid

I have read over the first 3 pages of this thread and have managed only today to get a full copy of Linnard's patent.I am a chemist(B.S.) and of course am very interested in all that is going on in this thread.Safety is always a top concern  here.I do know of a system to get only H2( through formation of a metal hydroxide).Two metal electrodes of iron(most metals,not copper,will do) are put into a saltwater solution.Then a small electric current is put across the electrodes and H2 gas boils off both electrodes.The oxygen does not come off as a gas but is tied up as a metal
hydroxide(a solid powder which settles to the bottom of the container).So one electrode is eaten up.The other one is not(until the polarity of the current is reversed).The beauty of this system is that most metals can be used and 0.91lbs of metal will generate close to 10 gallons of gasoline energy (in H2).So a  pound of aluminun cans can get you about 10 gallons of
of gasoline (in energy).Also a lb of junk iron.I will have to spend more time here to be able to really help you guys out.Triffid