Emulsifying Brown's Gas

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@MrSiegel2
What a kind post you have made.  Thank you.
I will take it at face value as you have made no deception as to who you are.

I guess, first off, we wish you and your company no harm.  What you have accomplished is wonderful.
Live long and prosper!  Your company and its product will save lots of money in fuel costs to the larger
applications and companies, like marine, industrial, processing to name a few, not to mention the reductions
in emissions that are spewing from these factories and tanker ships.  We wish you much success in your
company's marketing and growth.

As you have taken the time to review the thread, you can see it is altruistic to its very core.
Our intention is to skin the same cat.... a different way and then share it with the "little" people.
They're running around this planet trying to make ends meet in an Oil driven global economy that is
crushing them.  We want to help take some weight off.

Perhaps you can relate and may indeed have the heart to wish us the same success.
In fact, It would seem to me,
to be the ONLY reason I think of, that you would disclose yourself in such an open and non-threatening way to us.

So..... welcome to the thread Mr. Siegel. 
You're more than welcome to input here.

I guess my first question to you would be..... primarily, are you a businessman, chemist or an engineer....?

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@ all
Sorry for my temporary absence from the thread... blessings to all.
I bring GOOD tidings!

In my research, I have found another nugget! and this one is from a man
who is now 90 years old.
In 1975-1979 this man, Ferguerson, patented a surfactant combination that created a
Clear emulsion of gasoline and water that worked very well and handled up to 22% water as tested.
It was a rather flexible combination of surfactants that did the job very well.

First of all, a little history regarding fuel/water emulsions.  They actually go back at least one hundred years.... perhaps farther.
World War II was the climate that saw the U.S. Airforce developing water/kerosene aviation fuels.... not to reduce emissions or save
gas (God knows it was CHEAP back then)..... it was primarily done to "cool off" engine operating temperatures.... which it does VERY well.....TOO well for our purposes (heh heh).

Anyway.... the primary family of surfactants used were from the ethyloxalate group of nonionic surfactants.  Since then, there have been
many, many combinations JUST WITHIN THAT FAMILY..... and then, of the different derivatives.... there are HUNDREDS of formulas using different Molar combinations of the SAME chemicals.  These "formulas" are then what the surfactant companies sell as "proprietary" and proceed to give their own NAMES to.

Such things as Kampen's find called "DX50 SPS" or "T-20" is that mfr.'s molar combination of KNOWN SURFACTANTS that are of a more generic nature and available and well-known to "those in the business".

So, I think it's important for us all to understand the nature of this..... and not be intimidated by it.... or "overly" impressed by "secret" formulas.  OK?

I'll come back in a little bit and write more about Mr. Ferguerson. Stay tuned!
Cheers! 

PS... also it IS important to understand, as Mr.Siegel/Micheal pointed out.... that ULTIMATELY we will not be creating an "emulsion" and the combining of immiscible liquids..... it is rather called or described by several names....

micro gas emulsions
gas emulsions
gas aphrons
wet foams

and the technologies that have been pioneering this work are marketing the product as flocculants for floatation tanks in the suspension/separation of solids for mining and ore separation, agriculture manure processing, cosmetic applications etc....
so.... let's get used to calling it and thinking of it as a "wet foam" or gas emulsion.

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Gas Emulsion and Volume Displacement

Think about this:

At atmospheric pressure:
take a balloon and fill it with 1 liter of Brown's Gas.
now take it and push it down into a bucket with 1 liter of Diesel Fuel.
You will now have displaced 1 liter of Diesel Fuel and in essence, doubled your volume in the bucket.
You would now have 2 liters of combustible fuel.

That's all we're trying to do folks.
You already know how long it takes to produce 1 liter of HHO...... not long!
We just need to make small bubbles.... and trap them!

[kampen]

Just curious, is the NANOMIZER commercialy availabel and what's the price for a NANOMIZER.

[kampen]

@Kator01

Sorry for delay in answering your request. To avoid any misunderstanding the name is
DX50 and SPS.
DX50 is a multifunctional (diesel-oil) fuel additive and the SPS is the emulsifier (active tension inhibitor) with specs as explained.
Unfortunately this mixture is NOT commercially available, yet. I received a sample ca. 10l from a friend in Germany for testing purpose. Have done tests with this mixture on cultivated algae-(diesel-fuel) running a diesel-engine generator just fine.
As far as I know DX50 is made in Germany and SPS is made by Ciba-Geigy Switzerland.

Hope this info will be of any help.