Electrinium

[hypersoniq]

While I am fully immersed in my particular area of exploring this concept on the cheap, I may have come across a particular reason for the high voltage needed for electrinium...

Now I know I am dealing with a completely different crystal structure (Rochelle Salt) but... in any of the known piezo-electric crystals out there, compression releases electrons... there is a reverse reaction that will deform a crystal when high voltage is applied, it's known as "Electrostriction", and that's actually common to ANY dielectric material, to varying degrees of deformation...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrostriction

The resultant strain is irreversible. (even if you change voltage polarity).

Right now my biggest challenge is finding a cheap, readily-available source of boron nitride (expensive stuff based on preliminary searches... best so far is $40 USD for a 1lb sample of 98% pure hexagonal BN powder)

[hypersoniq]

I think I will let this electrinium thing continue on without mixing in my own crystal cell idea...
but since I don't have a working prototype yet it's going in half-baked ideas for now.

thanks A.P. Summera for the inspiration!

good luck

[resonanceman]

PVDF has a glass transition temperature (Tg) of about -35oC and is typically 50-60% crystalline. To give the material its piezoelectric properties, it is mechanically stretched to orient the molecular chain
s and then poled under tension. PVDF exists several forms: alpha (TGTG'), beta (TTTT), and gamma (TTTGTTTG') phases, depending on the chain conformations as trans (T) or gauche (G) linkages. When poled, PVDF is a ferroelectric polymer, exhibiting efficient piezoelectric and pyroelectric properties. These characteristics make it useful in sensor and battery applications. Thin films of PVDF are used in some newer thermal camera sensors.

Isn't this  starting  to sound a little like  plastic  electrinium?

gary

Edit

OOppps   
It looks like I hit modify  rather than  quote . ......and modified my  post out of existence .

It looks like this  could be  ideal  for the  Piezo capacitor  thing .



I found this  by following links to wikipedia  piezoelectricity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piezoelectricity


In 1969, the strong piezoelectricity of PVDF was observed by Kawai et al. The piezoelectric coefficient of poled thin films of the material were reported to be as large as 6-7 pCN-1: 10 times larger than that observed in any other polymer.

[nievesoliveras]

Hi!

@Gary
I have an information that I bought on Ebay about a plasma hydrolyzer and because I dont have any money I will help you with that information in order that you can get the energy that you need for your HH0.

Jesus

The file is too big for this site standards. I tried Mediafire but it freezes and stop responding. Please advise.

[resonanceman]

Hi!

@Gary
I have an information that I bought on Ebay about a plasma hydrolyzer and because I dont have any money I will help you with that information in order that you can get the energy that you need for your HH0.

Jesus

The file is too big for this site standards. I tried Mediafire but it freezes and stop responding. Please advise.

Jesus

Thanks  but I am not  ready to work on a HHO generator   ..... It is on my to do list  but it is not near the top .

gary